Best skates for narrow heels/thin ankles

nothinglikefreshice

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I've got narrow heels and thin ankles. My current boots (Edea Chorus) are a great fit for my forefoot, which is pretty normal width for my shoe size, but the back half feels like it is swimming around.
Does anyone suffer from the same problem and have any recommendations on the best boot for a foot like mine?
 

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Do you have a good skate shop or skate technician that you could ask? Boots are a pretty individual choice, and it's hard to make recommendations over the Internet without seeing you skate.
 

nothinglikefreshice

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I'm in the UK. It's a small market here so not really enough to support a lot of skate shops, even in London. There are a few, some of which I have tried. Honestly, I haven't found any of them particularly helpful. Mainly they want to sell you boots, carry a limited range of brands, an even more limited range of sizes. I am UK size 9, and shops just don't stock relatively high end skates in those kind of sizes, and are reluctact to order them in just for you to try on - you have to commit to buying.
I know it's not ideal to give advice over the internet without seeing someone. Ideally I would go to a shop that sold every single model and brand and had them in my size, try them all on, and chose the best fit. I know my feet and how skates should feel pretty well now. That's how I bought my new inline skates - found a shop that basically had everything in stock in my size and spent hours trying them on. They were nice enough to let me skate around the shop. Sadly not an option with ice figure boots.
I was just hoping someone had gone through a similar experience to me and found something that worked for them, to give me a starting point as to where to look.
There's no-one in the UK that I have found who moulds Edea, and I have also tried Edea dealers in Italy. I am also sceptical that you could make the heel and ankle area smaller. Moulding works best when things are a bit tight and need to be stretched.
But thanks both for your suggestions.
 

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I wear Risport which are generally considered to be quite narrow. A few years ago I tried on Edea's when I had the chance but I felt like I could move my feet from side to side in them so I got the same boot again. I bought Jerry's Gel Sleeves to protect my ankles when I was breaking them but I found that they make the boots more comfortable around my heels/ankles and now I wouldn't skate without them.
 

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I am in Edea Chorus I have narrow heals, and mine are loose. When I originally got them they were molded snugly in that area, but I have a tendency to leave my skates in my car and I think the heat un-molded them. I just deal with it, but I don’t jump any more. Just Synchro and dance.

No suggestions for you (sorry!) but at least you know you are not alone.
 

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I have been buying Reidell boots with a different width for the front and for the heel. (In my case I have wide feet but not-so-wide heel.)

If you're going to be buying a higher end boot anyway, would Edea be able to accommodate that kind of order?
 

nothinglikefreshice

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I will check out Riedell - I didn't know they did split widths. From the pictures they look a bit pointy-toed. Figure boot makers seem to think we've all got pointy feet. If you look at Hockey boots, or inline skates, or ski boots, or running or tennis shoes, they are not pointy. I don't know what's wrong with them.

I wrote to Edea in Italy and they didn't offer me any kind of custom options. Maybe for Patrick Chan...
 

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SP-Teri and Harlick are also known to have narrow heels. Harlicks tend to be narrow in the ball, too, although you can get a split width. SP-Teris tend to be a bit wider in the ball.
 

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Yes, Riedell's split width is affordable too - my daughter has an aaa heel and a b ball. It was about 50? 75? on top of the price of the skate. She has the gold star. I mentioned the heat molding on the edea because our pro shop offers it, there is no way it would fit some of the skaters where I am without the heat molding- they have super narrow feet. They heat the heel area and have a machine to squeeze it so it is a custom fit.
 

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I have AA heels with a left toe of EE and a rght toe of C. My achilles are very thin, so I need a lot of padding in the boots to fill in the gaps. Places that make custom skates should put extra padding in for you if the vendor requests it, but you might have to order custom boots.
 

nothinglikefreshice

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I would love to get Edeas moulded as in every other way I find them excellent - light and strong and zero break-in. But I simply can't find anyone in the UK to do it.
I did have a pair of SP Teris and while they are a lovely boot I found them very heavy and the tongue dug into my shin no matter what I tried.
I read that Jackson's stock boots are split width by default, with a narrower heel, but am curious to know whether this is a marketing claim or truthful.
 

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I will check out Riedell - I didn't know they did split widths. From the pictures they look a bit pointy-toed. Figure boot makers seem to think we've all got pointy feet.
Yes, Riedells do have pointier toes than some other brands, but this very non-pointy toed person hasn't found them uncomfortable because of that. Having said that, as mentioned above, Jackson also do split widths and the toe box is those is definitely wider.
 

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I read that Jackson's stock boots are split width by default, with a narrower heel, but am curious to know whether this is a marketing claim or truthful.
Jackson boots are formed on different lasts, depending on the model. Those specified as formed on the "Elite last" come stock in split width, with the heel one width narrower than the ball (e.g., C heel with a D ball). If you need more than one width differential (e.g., B heel with a D ball), and need no other changes, you can order semi-custom boots at an additional charge (but a lot less than full customs). Previously, the Elite last was used only on their high-end models, but they are in the process of revamping their line, and the Elite last is now used on some intermediate models as well (specified on the listings on the Jackson website). Jackson boots also tend to have a more rounded and higher toe box than other makes (such as Riedell). So if you want to have a snug heel without toe cramping, definitely consider Jacksons. I switched from Riedell to Jackson about 3 yrs ago; and I've been really glad I did, but results will depend on your particular feet.
 

nothinglikefreshice

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Thanks. I actually had a good look at my friend's recently-bought Elites yesterday and they certainly seem very promising. When I'm ready to buy I will try to find a dealer here who will let me try some on with no obligation to buy.
 

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Thanks. I actually had a good look at my friend's recently-bought Elites yesterday and they certainly seem very promising. When I'm ready to buy I will try to find a dealer here who will let me try some on with no obligation to buy.
Unfortunately, unless you really luck out, you're not likely to find a dealer that will actually have in stock what you want. It's just too expensive to maintain extensive inventory, given the number of manufacturers, models, and sizes (both length and width). Especially since manufacturers these days revamp their models a lot more frequently than previously. A dealer most likely will need to order a particular boot in your size (especially if it's a higher grade model). Depending on the dealer, you may need to pay a return fee if you don't like it, assuming you don't modify it. This gets tricky, because sometimes heat molding will correct any initial deficiencies in proper fit ... but if it doesn't work out, you probably may not be able to return it. Good luck! Finding the proper boot and blade can be a frustrating and expensive experience ... you don't know for sure until you get on the ice, and, for most skaters, there's no free test drive.
 

nothinglikefreshice

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Yup, it can be expensive. Fortunately both my daughters got lucky and have boots that suit them really well. It's such a niche market, even more so in the UK, just not enough volume to support shops offering a lot of choice. I often think they could make some sample dummy boots just to give you an idea of the shape. You'd still need to try them on but at least you would have an idea of what to order in. Or if they made the whole range from the same last you could try on in a lower end model in stock. That's what I did with Edea as I think Overture, Chorus and Concerto are almost identical in shape.
 
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I have a fairly narrow heel, and pretty square toes and Graf is what I wore for years. I just bought a pair of Jackson’s though and they’re also good. I’ve worn sp teri’s too but they aren’t easy skates to wear. Are edea’s not like other skates that you can put in the oven and heat mold yourself?
 

nothinglikefreshice

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Edea explicitly say not to bake them in the oven - I think they are made partly of plastic hence the lightness. Anyway I lack the industrial strength equipment and experience needed to crimp the heels properly.
My daughter has Grafs and they look very similar to the Jacksons and they are definitely an option I am considering.
 

nothinglikefreshice

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I used to wear bunga pads but don't feel they helped much. Maybe Pianos have better heel shape for me than Chorus - \i will try to find somewhere I can try some on.
 

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I have AA/AAAA feet, and I settled on custom Harlicks. I looooooooooooove them. I have super narrow feet to start off with though.
 

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Riedell offers a split width boot. The heel can be narrower than the ball. I believe they offer up to a AAAA ankle width. I have tried SP Teri and even their narrowest was not narrow enough for me. I stick with Riedell. In the US I have ordered boots by mail, sending them a tracing of my foot on paper. This could be an option for you if you can't find anyone in the UK. Cooke's in Massachusetts are very good skate fitters. I'm sure they would help you over the phone.
 

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How do you know/measure the size in heel and size in the ball? I thinking to buy a jackson boots.
 

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Yes, Riedell's split width is affordable too - my daughter has an aaa heel and a b ball. It was about 50? 75? on top of the price of the skate. She has the gold star. I mentioned the heat molding on the edea because our pro shop offers it, there is no way it would fit some of the skaters where I am without the heat molding- they have super narrow feet. They heat the heel area and have a machine to squeeze it so it is a custom fit.
Back in the day, I got Riedell silver stars with a AAA width and AAAAA heel. They actually had some teenager's boots in that size that they were ready to ship to her and I tried them on and they were perfect, so that is what I ordered. It was called semi-custom then. I also got a padded tongue, like the ones I tried on.

I've got narrow heels and thin ankles

Unfortunately, when I received them, they had punched out the ankles, which I guess most people want. My ankles were just as skinny as my feet, so they felt like they were falling off. I had to send them back and have the ankles punched back in (?). Look out for that.
 

spinZZ

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How do you know/measure the size in heel and size in the ball? I thinking to buy a jackson boots.
It's best to go to a competent skate tech who handles Jackson. Ask coaches and other skaters for recommendations. If nothing in the shop fits, the tech will take measurements and tracings of your feet and send them to Jackson. Jackson will then make a recommendation on sizing (whether stock, semi-custom, or full custom is needed for your particular feet).
 

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It's best to go to a competent skate tech who handles Jackson. Ask coaches and other skaters for recommendations. If nothing in the shop fits, the tech will take measurements and tracings of your feet and send them to Jackson. Jackson will then make a recommendation on sizing (whether stock, semi-custom, or full custom is needed for your particular feet).

Thanks!!! I live in Spain and there aren't specialists or jackson boots to tray.
I have a RF3 pro Risport however my fingers (right) touched on the tip of the boot and my feet fell asleep. I'm trying to mold them with heat (without much success), they are new.
A friend recommended me the jackson boots, but I don't know if my foot fits. I think my foot is long and narrow but I don't know the size in the heel to order a size.
Thanks again!
 

spinZZ

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Thanks!!! I live in Spain and there aren't specialists or jackson boots to tray.
I have a RF3 pro Risport however my fingers (right) touched on the tip of the boot and my feet fell asleep. I'm trying to mold them with heat (without much success), they are new.
A friend recommended me the jackson boots, but I don't know if my foot fits. I think my foot is long and narrow but I don't know the size in the heel to order a size.
Thanks again!
In that case, one option would be to email Jackson ([email protected]) and ask them for their instruction sheets for measurements and tracings. Note: You can't do the measurements and tracings on yourself; you skew the results badly. If there's not a skate tech nearby, is there at least a shoe fitter, preferably one who handles custom orders? There's some experience needed in taking the measurements and tracings properly. Good luck!
 

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