2024 Eurovision Grand Final - Finally Facing Our Waterloo?

[marbri]

If Croatia had sung there, they would have been in our place

You came third behind Croatia (who has been #1 in odds forever) and Switzerland who for me had THE performance of the night. I honestly don't think you could have done any better than that no matter where you sang in the order.

 

[miffy]

Delighted that Ireland came Top 10. Would never have dreamt at the start of this year we would come 6th!

I believed in you! And voted!

I’m crushed for Croatia though. I really wanted him to win

 

[PRlady]

Really? What was the year that amazing song had technical issues in the jury performance so got next to nothing, but won the televote I think? I think it was called Spirit in the Sky…

That was Norway, right?

 

[Garden Kitty]

I wanted Croatia but if not them, I'm happy with Switzerland.

Thanks for sharing the communal viewing experience and see you next year!

When Worlds ends, I still think the season is ongoing until Eurovision. Now I'm ready for summer.

 

[miffy]

That was Norway, right?

Yes, well remembered!

 

[Asli]

It's subjective anyway, so anything is fine.

 

[Debbie S]

Israel won the public vote for non-musical reasons. I’m glad they didn’t win, it would have been a colossal shitshow. But I hope poor Eden gets at least a week at the world’s best spa.

Their low jury points were also for non-musical reasons.

Eden is a great talent. I hope after some rest, she gets some good opportunities.

 

[marbri]

Israel won the public vote for non-musical reasons. I’m glad they didn’t win, it would have been a colossal shitshow. But I hope poor Eden gets at least a week at the world’s best spa.

Not disputing that, just curious to see the voting breakdown because to win the public vote with 375 votes from 37 voting entities she could have to be getting decent points (8+) from everyone and THAT surprises me. So I am curious to see the breakdown because I don't think that is possible so I am missing something.

 

[airgelaal]

I honestly don’t get the constant rant. Croatia was the heavy favorite before the night even started. It was all the juries boosting Switzerland up that made it the big surprise, not the start order.

But we could have gotten more, so the producers put us in 2nd place, not Switzerland and Croatia.

 

[my little pony]

they didnt have low jury votes though, they were on the left side of the leaderboard in an above average year.

 

[SHARPIE]

I really rated Spain

 

[nickp]

I'M SO HAPPY BAMBIE CAME TOP 10 IRELAND SHOULD BE PROUD

 

[allezfred]

If you want to know how farcical this year’s Eurovision has been, the public televote in Ireland gave 10 to Israel.

 

[allezfred]

Really? What was the year that amazing song had technical issues in the jury performance so got next to nothing, but won the televote I think? I think it was called Spirit in the Sky…

2019. It was more than that this year.

 

[marbri]

If you want to know how farcical this year’s Eurovision has been, the public televote in Ireland gave 10 to Israel.

This is what I am saying. That surprises me, especially considering the issues between Irish and Israeli delegations.

 

[allezfred]

Their low jury points were also for non-musical reasons.

Eden is a great talent. I hope after some rest, she gets some good opportunities.

It was a mediocre song sung very well.

 

[PRlady]

they didnt have low jury votes though, they were on the left side of the leaderboard in an above average year.

I’d like a list of countries that gave Israel jury votes.

This was more like the UN vote on partition than Eurovision.

@allezfred is there a link to the jury and public votes?

 

[my little pony]

baby lasagna's merch ordering page is not in English I afraid I will buy a million cat shirts

 

[marbri]

See this article says we gave Israel 8 points in public vote, THAT surprises me, a lot :

Ísland gaf Ísrael 8 stig

Ísland gaf Ísrael 8 stig í Söngvakeppni evrópskra sjónvarpsstöðva.

www.mbl.is

They got no points from our jury.

 

[allezfred]

But we could have gotten more, so the producers put us in 2nd place, not Switzerland and Croatia.

You cannot say that for sure. Just let it go.

 

[airgelaal]

I’d like a list of countries that gave Israel jury votes.

This was more like the UN vote on partition than Eurovision.

@allezfred is there a link to the jury and public votes?

https://eurovision.tv/event/malmo-2024/grand-final/results

I am proud of the Ukrainian viewers!

 

[airgelaal]

You cannot say that for sure. Just let it go.

Ukraine in 2nd place received 307 points
Switzerland is in 23rd place with only 226 points. I have no doubt that in 2nd place he would have received even less and that is why he would never have been put there. The organizers needed a victory for Switzerland, Croatia or even France. But neither Ukraine nor Israel. They tried really hard
We didn't need to win, we just don't like being considered idiots.

 

[airgelaal]

I look at the detailed results and feel sad again. For the second year in a row, the winner has completely unconvincing results from the audience, but an astronomical gap from the jury. It is not right...

 

[Asli]

I’d like a list of countries that gave Israel jury votes.

This was more like the UN vote on partition than Eurovision.

@allezfred is there a link to the jury and public votes?

Here: https://eurovision.tv/event/malmo-2024/grand-final/results/israel

The members of the juries are all from the entertainment industry though and therefore probably less representative of public opinion than the voting audiences.

 

[marbri]

So in Semi 2 the top finishers were:
1. Israel 194 pts
2. Netherlands 182 pts
3. Armenia 137 pts
4. Switzerland 132 pts

https://eurovision.tv/event/malmo-2024/second-semi-final

Will be really interesting for more details on the DQ. They could have done really really well tonight I think so I really hope it was a justified disqualification and that what he did leaves no questions this was the right call.

 

[airgelaal]

So in Semi 2 the top finishers were:
1. Israel 194 pts
2. Netherlands 182 pts
3. Armenia 137 pts
4. Switzerland 132 pts

https://eurovision.tv/event/malmo-2024/second-semi-final

Will be really interesting for more details on the DQ. They could have done really really well tonight I think so I really hope it was a justified disqualification and that what he did leaves no questions this was the right call.

And, what’s most interesting, the producers put them next to each other in the finale. Does anyone still think that this is all a coincidence?

 

[Asli]

Will be really interesting for more details on the DQ. They could have done really really well tonight I think so I really hope it was a justified disqualification and that what he did leaves no questions this was the right call.

Yes, disqualification is a very extreme reaction and there hasn't been a detailed explanation.
Other competitors have broken Eurovision rules at this competition. For instance the French and Irish singers making political declarations during the competition week. There haven't been any sanctions against them, let alone disqualification.

 

[allezfred]

Ukraine in 2nd place received 307 points
Switzerland is in 23rd place with only 226 points. I have no doubt that in 2nd place he would have received even less and that is why he would never have been put there. The organizers needed a victory for Switzerland, Croatia or even France. But neither Ukraine nor Israel. They tried really hard
We didn't need to win, we just don't like being considered idiots.

So Ukraine can never be put in what is perceived to be a bad running order is what you are saying. Let’s all think about that.

 

[allezfred]

I look at the detailed results and feel sad again. For the second year in a row, the winner has completely unconvincing results from the audience, but an astronomical gap from the jury. It is not right...

The winner last year was a worldwide hit and far outsold the televote winner. I think the right song won last year.

 

[airgelaal]

So Ukraine can never be put in what is perceived to be a bad running order is what you are saying. Let’s all think about that.

We opened the contest twice and I don’t think it’s a problem.