Chinese skating news & social media updates pt. 5, 2023 onwards

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Is the 焦虑 here the same as the mental health condition, or just a casual use of the word? He says he lost hair over it, and that he got the kitten to help relieve it, so am wondering.
 

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Any news on the Chinese team for 4CCs? I think they're the last big team we're waiting to hear about (we'll, aside from half the Canadian team, lol).
 

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Any news on the Chinese team for 4CCs? I think they're the last big team we're waiting to hear about (we'll, aside from half the Canadian team, lol).

Not the team, but found this 'gossip' funny in light of how much chinese fans complain about not having enough funds for anything.

After Shanghai trophy and COC, many are quite curious about the opening ceremony and how much it was spent. And the 4cc gives us an answer:

Shanghai's sports bureau seems to have spent a whooping amount of $6 million rmb (roughly 830k usd) alone for the opening ceremony (not mentioning the few tens of millions spent on athlete/judge hotel). Well, let's look forward to the opening ceremony aha~~~

Hopefully, next season, they can spend a bit more on skaters (as much as I've enjoyed the tacky intros and decoration lol).
 

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Any news on the Chinese team for 4CCs? I think they're the last big team we're waiting to hear about (we'll, aside from half the Canadian team, lol).
Not confirmed, but allegedly from Juss Sports

Men
Boyang Jin
Yudong Chen
Daiwei Dai

Women
Hongyi Chen
Yi Zhu
Jiaying Chen

Pairs
Cheng Peng & Lei Wang
Siyang Zhang & Yongchao Yang
Yuchen Wang & Lei Zhu

Dance
Xizi Chen & Jianing Xing 165.60
Shang Shi & Nan Wu
Xuantong Li & Xinkang Wang
 

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Link? (can't recall which one this is)

Happy to see Li/Wang getting an international senior opportunity, especially having missed 4CC last season.
It was posted on their xiaohongshu briefly before being deleted. There's nothing super surprising though, most are according to the results of nationals, with the exception of those who WD from nats (Wang/Zhu, in this case there's no other pair with mins so makes sense the third slot went to them). The only ? is ice dance where only 2 teams with mins went to nats and it appears that Wang/Liu AGAIN aren't planning to compete...
 

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The only ? is ice dance where only 2 teams with mins went to nats and it appears that Wang/Liu AGAIN aren't planning to compete...
Yeah the Li/Wang one surprised me, the others are pretty much expected based off results/byes. Would love some confirmation! They're deserving.
 

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Not the team, but found this 'gossip' funny in light of how much chinese fans complain about not having enough funds for anything.

This is a fact, not just a gossip - the official bid acceptance letter is here: https://www.ccgp.gov.cn/cggg/dfgg/zbgg/202401/t20240104_21383863.htm

Juss Sports is the organizer for major sports events in Shanghai, including tennis, Formula One etc.
 

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This is a fact, not just a gossip - the official bid acceptance letter is here: https://www.ccgp.gov.cn/cggg/dfgg/zbgg/202401/t20240104_21383863.htm
Yeah they posted a screenshot of this later actually! Which celebs do you guys expect? :lol:
Juss Sports is the organizer for major sports events in Shanghai, including tennis, Formula One etc.
So would you guys say skating is picking up steam in China? heh. 🕳️ fan conspiracy theories are 'primary school students are being forced to attend, primary school students are being forced to watch, jin boyang's management company is attempting to convert 🕳️ fans into jin's/skating fans (lol)', so I'm curious for sane perspectives on it. Especially because when I do open tieba baidu what I get is this pile of trash on the front page: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8851533279 so no interest in reading further, and douban is basically a computer virus.
 

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Juss Sports' app crashed soon after the F1 Chinese GP tickets went on sale yesterday. Don't think FS can ever reach this level of popularity in China. :lol:
I don't expect it to, I don't think a niche sport can ever do that. I think it's delusional to assume it's going to reach a national sport level visibility like in Russia - and in other countries (USA, Japan) it mostly depends on 'stars' and the plagues some of them bring in. But it seems to me it's clearly gaining visibility, so I am asking if I'm right there.
 
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I don't expect it to, I don't think a niche sport can ever do that. I think it's delusional to assume it's going to reach a national sport level visibility like in Russia - and in other countries (USA, Japan) it mostly depends on 'stars' and the plagues some of them bring in. But it seems to me it's clearly gaining visibility, so I am asking if I'm right there.

I think the presence is growing but most of the new fans follow the stars (Boyang, Yuzuru, Russian girls, S/H etc.) not the sport. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, though, and I expect FS to gain even more visibility with more events being held in China.

I know Fanyus were not speaking in good faith when they talked about "primary students being forced to attend events" etc., but it's true that event organizers gave free tickets out at both CoC and GPF.

Prior to 2018 the Figure Skating Tieba used to be a good forum. I mean there were trolls, fan wars and sh!t posts too but there were also quite some people who came there to discuss the sport itself in good faith. Now it's a pure cesspit where the vast majority of posts read like parodies.
 

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Now [tieba]'s a pure cesspit where the vast majority of posts read like parodies.
(for context, both this and fs douban are moderated by 🕳️ fans)

Problem(?) is they really love spreading garbage disguised as "rumours and gossip" - which IDK if people actually have the ability to separate from real (insider) rumours and gossip. Like that trash 'Jin didn't go to tcc in 2018 because of his gf' fanyu developed conspiracy theory, which no one normal believes least of all because nobody even knows if he had a gf then? But fanyus love saying he did anyway, and that's all some will consume and regurgitate. It's just a classic idol/fan circle thing, and sure it doesn't matter to the Chinese because you know it's bs, but it's ridiculous how much shit they can make up and potentially leak outside of chinese sns. (for further context, it was a fanyu who told me this 'information' back in 2018, when I rarely used to visit chinese sns lol) (also he has had, what, 10 gfs by now in their minds?)

And 2018 coincides with 🕳️ getting all those idol fans, so yeah. Korean forums banned them btw, maybe y'all can follow suit for some general/normal fs spaces. Winnie the Pooh, Superior can come in handy for once.

I think the presence is growing but most of the new fans follow the stars
That's fine, because apart from 🕳️ fans the toxicity is pretty normal for chinese sns. A bit too idolish for a sport, but to be expected because of how much your fan spaces draw from idol culture. And I do think the actual skating fans are following the chinese skaters and support the rest of the team, so that's where I am thinking the sport could grow further, especially with Jin and Peng/Wang.
I know Fanyus were not speaking in good faith when they talked about "primary students being forced to attend events" etc., but it's true that event organizers gave free tickets out at both CoC and GPF.
I find it normal, I guess. What's a fun school trip or two, or just a handy tactic to grow the sport? Next time they might pay. Not to 'make skating seem like it's more popular than it is when nobody is more godly than zuzu' anyway. (and yes, that's a real thing they said)
 
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The China Winter Games (Junior section) starts next week. It's lesser known here in USA but it's a pretty big deal there. It's an Olympic games style event with athlete representatives in various sports from regions of China.
The entry list of Junior National Winter Games (Jan. 17-19) is now official: http://www.cfsa.com.cn/cfsa_portal/html/new1.html?newsId=3604029&newsTypeId=5

Copying it out - skaters' birth dates are included in the document

Junior Dance (8)

Yufei Lin / Zijian Gao (Oct. 2004/Sept. 2003)
Xuantong Li / Xinkang Wang (Feb. 2007/Jan. 2004)
Xin'ai Ding / Hanchong Zheng (Aug. 2007/Apr. 2005)
Shanjie Yin / Shirui Yang (Sept. 2007/Mar. 2007)
Tong Liu / Quanshuo Ge (Jun. 2008/Jul. 2006)
Yuxi Gao / Suyang Li (Mar. 2007/Dec. 2004)
Xintong Qu / Zhihong Liu (Jun. 2005/Nov. 2004)
Munire Rahman / Abduwaris Mutellip (Dec. 2005/May 2004)

Junior Men (18)

Tonghe Tian (Aug. 2008)
Qihan Zhao (Oct. 2007)
Yudong Chen (Sept. 2004)
Yihe Sun (Dec. 2008)
Zexuan Wang (Nov. 2008)
Zhile Yu (Jun. 2008)
Ziyi Li (May 2009)
Yingrui Li (Jun. 2010)
Boren Lu (Feb. 2008)
Bofeng Wang (Apr. 2005)
Simon Sun (HKG, Jun. 2009)
Mingda Li (Nov. 2009)
Yinbo Dong (Oct. 2008)
Chit Wang Chow (HKG, Apr. 2007)
Yihan Ren (Jan. 2008)
Yuchen Liu (Jun. 2006)
Jingtong Yang (Jul. 2006)
Yingchun Guo (Jun. 2009)

Junior Women (18)

Yihan Wang (Beijing, Mar. 2010)
Shiqi Gao (Oct. 2009)
Ruotang Li (Sept. 2009)
Wandi Xu (Mar. 2008)
Megan Wong (HKG, Apr. 2008)
Jiaxin Shi (Jan. 2008)
Zijun Zhou (Aug. 2008)
Hengxin Jin (Aug. 2005)
Xuanyu Liu (Jun. 2009)
Tsz Ching Chan (HKG, Aug. 2007)
Yiyun Wen (Feb. 2009)
Xinyao Liu (Nov. 2009)
Chloe Desiree Leung (HKG, Nov. 2007)
Xiyao Yang (Mar. 2010)
Yaxuan Zhu (Dec. 2006)
Ziye Li (Dec. 2005)
Ziyue Yang (Jul. 2008)
Mujun Hu (Feb. 2010)
Gris, please keep us informed, if possible. And if you know of any streaming please advise.

Thanks in advance.

Go Jayden! (Qihan Zhao).
 

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The China Winter Games (Junior section) starts next week. It's lesser known here in USA but it's a pretty big deal there. It's an Olympic games style event with athlete representatives in various sports from regions of China.

Gris, please keep us informed, if possible. And if you know of any streaming please advise.

Thanks in advance.

Go Jayden! (Qihan Zhao).
Right now unfortunately it seems that there won't be any official streaming for Junior Section:(. We can only hope some fans will be there to film something.
 

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New topic: Why China's Fed refuses to use its resources to promote its own skaters and instead decided to promote 🕳️ leading up to Beijing and is wasting money on Russian Chemistry Vacuum right now.
 

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New topic: Why China's Fed refuses to use its resources to promote its own skaters and instead decided to promote 🕳️ leading up to Beijing and is wasting money on Russian Chemistry Vacuum right now.

I don’t think this is the doing of China’s Fed. They will be in an ice show next week in China, along with many Russian skaters. So this is the promotion for that show.
 

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Please tell me what the black hole emoji means.
It's the nickname for Hanyu.

And I see my previous post has been deleted - I apologize if it was offensive (not the comment about chinese fanyus though - idc about their irrelevant feelings). But I don't really see why Russian skaters need to be invited to China. Maybe there are political reasons behind it, but if not, then why can't they give their own skaters these opportunities? They are better.
 

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Go Jayden! (Qihan Zhao).

Jayden‘s SP
https://weibo.com/6290293780/4991564657200132

No official streaming, A short track skater’s mom at scene is streaming via “kuaishou” App. 快手
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Introducing VCR filmed by a fan
Ice Dance Group 2
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991545340856217

Men Group 1
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991554127136652
Men Group 2
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991567520073442
Men Group 3

Women Group 1
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991595897946211
Women Group 2
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991604123242341
 
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Jayden‘s SP
https://weibo.com/6290293780/4991564657200132

No official streaming, A short track skater’s mom at scene is streaming via “kuaishou” App. 快手
link

Introducing VCR filmed by a fan
Ice Dance Group 2
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991545340856217

Men Group 1
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991554127136652
Men Group 2
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991567520073442
Men Group 3

Women Group 1
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991595897946211
Women Group 2
https://weibo.com/7389595428/4991604123242341
Thanks!
 

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🥉 Ruotang Li FS (109.91): https://weibo.com/6290293780/NCBql5LQQ
🥈 Shiqi Gao FS (121.47): https://weibo.com/6290293780/NCBwtvdY4
🥇 Yihan Wang FS (128.61): https://weibo.com/6290293780/NCBzijrAD

The case for Yihan going to WJC is even stronger now since she beat Ruotang by over 30 points across 2 programs.

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Coaches got a medal too!


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Sadly Tonghe's injury doesn't look good - just saw a photo of him in a wheelchair on Weibo. Wonder if he will still go to YOG...
 

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... Well now surely this is a strong case for them to be sent to junior worlds... I know the selection criteria are different but... silly, in this case.

Well rumor says now China may decide not to send anyone to JW this year…

Sadly Tonghe's injury doesn't look good - just saw a photo of him in a wheelchair on Weibo. Wonder if he will still go to YOG...

Per his Weibo he is going…
https://weibo.com/7809011295/4992282520453126
 

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