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[Sylvia]

SP draws for the Women (15:15) and Pairs (18:45) will take place after their official practices in the main rink today.

Men’s SP draw is tomorrow at 18:00 and the RD draw is Thursday at 16:15.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

SP draws

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It’s not reverse order of world standings?

 

[Karen-W]

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It’s not reverse order of world standings?

No. As has been covered in this thread already - each SP group is determined by WS but they still have a draw within each SP group for their starting order.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

No. As has been covered in this thread already - each SP group is determined by WS but they still have a draw within each SP group for their starting order.

Whatever grump. For the last three months you’ve been telling me as far as like to say the start order for Amber … she’s gonna be 13th depending on Petrokina and then a few weeks later saying she’ll be 14th she’s going to be behind young you. Now all of a sudden that’s not the case so why bother keeping up in the thread. Multiple answers, depending on what day of the week it is.

Don’t bother responding with your predictable Snark and grumpitude. Not needed today toots.

 

[Karen-W]

Whatever grump. For the last three months you’ve been telling me as far as like to say the start order for Amber … she’s gonna be 13th depending on Petrokina and then a few weeks later saying she’ll be 14th she’s going to be behind young you. Now all of a sudden that’s not the case so why bother keeping up in the thread. Multiple explanations, depending on what day of the week it is.

Don’t bother responding with your predictable Snark and grumpitude. Not needed today toots.

Nope - all I've been saying is that she won't be in the penultimate group - and she's not (she's in the 3rd to last group).

I've got a slight headache and am dealing with annoying customers so you might have to suffer some snark and grumpiness from me until this evening when I'm free of the madness and get to focus solely on skating for the rest of the week, lol.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Nope - all I've been saying is that she won't be in the penultimate group - and she's not (she's in the 3rd to last group).

Wrong-o!!!!!

And if needed, I’ll come back and post your replies right here so you can see in black-and-white. But I too have a lot going on today so whatevs.

 

[skateblessing]

Whatever grump. For the last three months you’ve been telling me as far as like to say the start order for Amber … she’s gonna be 13th depending on Petrokina and then a few weeks later saying she’ll be 14th she’s going to be behind young you. Now all of a sudden that’s not the case so why bother keeping up in the thread. Multiple answers, depending on what day of the week it is.

Don’t bother responding with your predictable Snark and grumpitude. Not needed today toots.

Since the start orders are based on world ranking points, her possible start order for Worlds could change during the season, either because she get new ranking points and goes higher on the list or other skaters get ranking points and goes ahead of Amber on the list. So everything she said could be true at the point she wrote it. For example Petrokina got around 182 points after Tallinn Hotel Cup in February, and Glenn hasn´t competed internationally and gotten any ranking points after Christmas. She could easily have gotten ranking points at 4CC, but she WD. So of course other skaters would have passed her on the list.

What makes everything more confusing, is that from my understanding they have changed how they draw within the groups. Earlier they would draw between start nr. 1-3 and 3-6 in the group based on how they were ranked. Start nr. 3-6 in a group, would be the highest ranked skaters of the group, and nr. 1-3, the lowest ranked.

This way to draw within the groups was done at Euros, I think also 4CC and Junior Worlds. I assumed it would be done this way at Worlds too. So this will also impact the start order.

Apparently now for Worlds, the ranking within the group doesn´t have anything to say, so a skater who earlier should have skated somewhere between 3-6 in the respective group, could now get start nr. 1 in the group, depending on the draw.

I do not see anything grumpy about the assumption given at the time that was based on facts.

 

[Karen-W]

What makes everything more confusing, is that from my understanding they have changed how they draw within the groups. Earlier they would draw between start nr. 1-3 and 3-6 in the group based on how they were ranked. Start nr. 3-6 in a group, would be the highest ranked skaters of the group, and nr. 1-3, the lowest ranked.

This way to draw within the groups was done at Euros, I think also 4CC and Junior Worlds. I assumed it would be done this way at Worlds too. So this will also impact the start order.

Apparently now for Worlds, the ranking within the group doesn´t have anything to say, so a skater who earlier should have skated somewhere between 3-6 in the respective group, could now get start nr. 1 in the group, depending on the draw.

Yes, this is how it is done at Worlds too, I just don't bother worrying about that so much as the groupings.

 

[skateblessing]

Yes, this is how it is done at Worlds too, I just don't bother worrying about that so much as the groupings.

Ok, thanks for clarifying, then it was just a misunderstanding from my side. I could not find any information about that anywhere else, so I was a little surprised. Given how confusing the whole seeded groups is for some people I understand not bother to mention it

 

[Sylvia]

B. ISU Championships – Special Technical Rules
ISU Rule No. 520 Draws for Competitors

1. Applicable for all ISU Championships as from the 2022/23 season, the
draw for the Short Program/Rhythm Dance and if applicable, for the
Qualifying Free Skating/Free Dance will be held according to the latest
World Standings as follows, whereby World Standings will be
established as per the procedure published in an ISU Communication:
a) For the purpose of the draw, the Competitors are listed in
accordance with the latest ISU World Standings at the time of the
Team Leaders Meeting at the respective competition.
b) The Competitors will be divided into starting order groups in
accordance to Table I of the Technical Rules using the total
number of Competitors entered.
c) Within the starting order groups, the Competitors will be divided
into two equal subgroups, in case of an odd number of
Competitors the subgroups with the Competitors drawing for the
higher starting numbers will include one more Skater/Pair/Couple.
d) There will be a free draw among all Competitors of each such
subgroup with the highest ranked Skater/Pair/Couple of the World
Standings drawing first and so on.
e) In case of ties in the World Standings there will be a separate draw
between the tied Competitors to decide the order of the draw. In
case of ties in the World Standings on the border of starting order
groups or the subgroups, all those tied Competitors will be
included in the later group or subgroup and the earlier competing
group or subgroup will be smaller by the number of Competitors
so added to a later group. However, this procedure has no
influence on the size of the warm-up groups for the Short Program
/ Rhythm Dance or Qualifying Free Skating/Free Dance which
strictly follows Table II of the Technical Rules.
f) Skaters/Pairs/Couples, who have not received any ISU World
Standing points will be listed at the bottom of the list in country
order. There will be a separate draw between those
Skaters/Pairs/Couples with no World Standing placements to
determine the starting order, following the basic principles of the
draws.
2. Based on the result of the Short Program/Rhythm Dance, the
Competitors placed 1-24 in Single Skating 1-16 in Pair Skating (1-20
in Pair Skating at World Championships) and 1-20 in Ice Dance only
shall qualify for the final Free Skating/Free Dance.
Starting with the 2024/25 season, based on the result of the Short
Program/Rhythm Dance, the Competitors placed 1-24 in Single
Skating, 1-16 in Pair Skating and 1-20 in Ice Dance only shall qualify
for the final Free Skating/Free Dance.
3. The starting order for the Free Skating/Free Dance will be according to
Rule 513, paragraph 2. f) Women & Men, 2. g) Pairs and 2. h) Ice
Dance.
4. If a tie in the Short Program/Rhythm Dance occurs for the 24th place in
Single Skating or for the 16th place in Pair Skating (for the 20th place in
Pair Skating at World Championships) or for the 20th place in Ice
Dance, all the tied Competitors will qualify for the Free Skating/Free
Dance for which they will be drawn in the same (first) group. If
necessary, Rule 514, paragraph 3 shall apply.
Starting with the 2024/25 season, if a tie in the Short Program/Rhythm
Dance occurs for the 24th place in Single Skating or for the 16th place
in Pair Skating or for the 20th place in Ice Dance, all the tied
Competitors will qualify for the Free Skating/Free Dance for which they
will be drawn in the same (first) group. If necessary, Rule 514,
paragraph 3 shall apply.

 

[Sylvia]

Women - Short Program Starting Order
StN. Name Nation

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Meda VARIAKOJYTE LTU
2 Vanesa SELMEKOVA SVK
3 Anastasia GOZHVA UKR
4 Mia RISA GOMEZ NOR
5 Anastasia GRACHEVA MDA

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Eliska BREZINOVA CZE
7 Kristina ISAEV GER
8 Nella PELKONEN FIN
9 Nina POVEY GBR
10 Nataly LANGERBAUR EST
11 Mariia SENIUK ISR

Ice Resurfacing

Warm-Up Group 3
12 Alexandra FEIGIN BUL
13 Josefin TALJEGARD SWE
14 Tzu-Han TING TPE
15 Livia KAISER SUI
16 Sarina JOOS ITA
17 Olga MIKUTINA AUT

Warm-Up Group 4
18 Lorine SCHILD FRA
19 Julia SAUTER ROU
20 Sofja STEPCENKO LAT
21 Young YOU KOR
22 Amber GLENN USA
23 Kimmy REPOND SUI

Ice Resurfacing

Warm-Up Group 5
24 Niina PETROKINA EST
25 Mone CHIBA JPN
26 Madeline SCHIZAS CAN
27 Ekaterina KURAKOVA POL
28 Nina PINZARRONE BEL
29 Hana YOSHIDA JPN

Warm-Up Group 6
30 Haein LEE KOR
31 Anastasiia GUBANOVA GEO
32 Chaeyeon KIM KOR
33 Isabeau LEVITO USA
34 Loena HENDRICKX BEL
35 Kaori SAKAMOTO JPN

Qualification rule: The best 24 skaters after Short Program will advance to the next segment.

Time Schedule for tomorrow: http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...----------QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

ETA link to fun photos of the JPN women at the draw (#4 of 4 shows Loena & Kaori ): https://www.instagram.com/p/C4tT232uRA4/

 

[Karen-W]

Pairs SP starting order - http://www.isuresults.com/results/season2324/wc2024/SEG005.htm

Detailed time schedule - http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...-_StartListwithTimes.pdf?force_isolation=true

StN. Name Nation
Warm-Up Group 1
1 Federica SIMIOLI / Alessandro ZARBO CZE
2 Ioulia CHTCHETININA / Michal WOZNIAK POL
3 Sofiia HOLICHENKO / Artem DARENSKYI UKR
4 Sophia SCHALLER / Livio MAYR AUT

Warm-Up Group 2
5 Isabella GAMEZ / Aleksandr KOROVIN PHI
6 Milania VAANANEN / Filippo CLERICI FIN
7 Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD SWE
8 Cheng PENG / Lei WANG CHN

Warm-Up Group 3
9 Anastasia VAIPAN-LAW / Luke DIGBY GBR
10 Anastasiia METELKINA / Luka BERULAVA GEO
11 Ellie KAM / Danny O'SHEA USA
12 Kelly Ann LAURIN / Loucas ETHIER CAN

Warm-Up Group 4
13 Daria DANILOVA / Michel TSIBA NED
14 Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nikita VOLODIN GER
15 Lia PEREIRA / Trennt MICHAUD CAN
16 Anastasia GOLUBEVA / Hektor GIOTOPOULOS MOORE AUS

Warm-Up Group 5
17 Lucrezia BECCARI / Matteo GUARISE ITA
18 Emily CHAN / Spencer Akira HOWE USA
19 Maria PAVLOVA / Alexei SVIATCHENKO HUN
20 Valentina PLAZAS / Maximiliano FERNANDEZ USA

Warm-Up Group 6
21 Annika HOCKE / Robert KUNKEL GER
22 Riku MIURA / Ryuichi KIHARA JPN
23 Deanna STELLATO-DUDEK / Maxime DESCHAMPS CAN
24 Sara CONTI / Niccolo MACII ITA

Qualification rule: The best 20 skaters after Short Program will advance to the next segment.

 

[Wyliefan]

Men's starting order is up.

ISU World Championships 2024 - Men - Short Program

www.isuresults.com

Because my computer gets fussy about too many flag graphics, I'll have to leave it to one of you to do the copy-paste.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Because my computer gets fussy about too many flag graphics, I'll have to leave it to one of you to do the copy-paste.

Lolll. Same for me, I think my computer only allows like 18 images or flags, so I always have to go and delete some of them lol.

 

[Karen-W]

Men's Starting Order - http://www.isuresults.com/results/season2324/wc2024/SEG001.htm

Detailed Time Schedule - http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...----------QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

StN. Name Nation
Warm-Up Group 1
1 Semen DANILIANTS ARM
2 Aleksandr VLASENKO HUN
3 Donovan CARRILLO MEX
4 Alexander ZLATKOV BUL
5 Jari KESSLER CRO

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN
7 Davide LEWTON BRAIN MON
8 Georgii RESHTENKO CZE
9 Tomas-Llorenc GUARINO SABATE ESP
10 Burak DEMIRBOGA TUR

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Nikita STAROSTIN GER
12 Vladimir SAMOILOV POL
13 Ivan SHMURATKO UKR
14 Hyungyeom KIM KOR
15 Luc ECONOMIDES FRA
16 Maurizio ZANDRON AUT

Warm-Up Group 4
17 Andreas NORDEBACK SWE
18 Roman SADOVSKY CAN
19 Edward APPLEBY GBR
20 Mark GORODNITSKY ISR
21 Sihyeong LEE KOR
22 Vladimir LITVINTSEV AZE

Warm-Up Group 5
23 Wesley CHIU CAN
24 Adam HAGARA SVK
25 Aleksandr SELEVKO EST
26 Gabriele FRANGIPANI ITA
27 Boyang JIN CHN
28 Jason BROWN USA

Warm-Up Group 6
29 Camden PULKINEN USA
30 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ
31 Nikolaj MEMOLA ITA
32 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT
33 Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI
34 Nika EGADZE GEO

Warm-Up Group 7
35 Yuma KAGIYAMA JPN
36 Kao MIURA JPN
37 Junhwan CHA KOR
38 Ilia MALININ USA
39 Shoma UNO JPN
40 Adam SIAO HIM FA FRA

Qualification rule: The best 24 skaters after Short Program will advance to the next segment.

 

[Karen-W]

Men's starting order is up.

ISU World Championships 2024 - Men - Short Program

www.isuresults.com

Because my computer gets fussy about too many flag graphics, I'll have to leave it to one of you to do the copy-paste.

It's called "paste plain text" - that eliminates all the flag graphics, lol.

 

[Wyliefan]

It's called "paste plain text" - that eliminates all the flag graphics, lol.

Oh, thanks!

 

[Karen-W]

And we have the RD starting order! http://www.isuresults.com/results/season2324/wc2024/SEG007.htm

Detailed Time Schedule - http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...----------QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

StN. Name Nation
Warm-Up Group 1
1 Hanna JAKUCS / Alessio GALLI NED
2 Olivia OLIVER / Filip BOJANOWSKI POL
3 Adrienne CARHART / Oleksandr KOLOSOVSKYI AZE
4 Milla Ruud REITAN / Nikolaj MAJOROV SWE

Warm-Up Group 2
5 Solene MAZINGUE / Marko Jevgeni GAIDAJENKO EST
6 Xizi CHEN / Jianing XING CHN
7 Paulina RAMANAUSKAITE / Deividas KIZALA LTU
8 Mariia HOLUBTSOVA / Kyryl BIELOBROV UKR

Warm-Up Group 3
9 Gina ZEHNDER / Beda Leon SIEBER SUI
10 Mariia NOSOVITSKAYA / Mikhail NOSOVITSKIY ISR
11 Olivia SMART / Tim DIECK ESP
12 Anna SIMOVA / Kirill AKSENOV SVK

Warm-Up Group 4
13 Mariia IGNATEVA / Danijil Leonyidovics SZEMKO HUN
14 Victoria MANNI / Carlo ROETHLISBERGER ITA
15 Misato KOMATSUBARA / Tim KOLETO JPN
16 Phebe BEKKER / James HERNANDEZ GBR

Warm-Up Group 5
17 Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKIN GEO
18 Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINEN FIN
19 Emily BRATTI / Ian SOMERVILLE USA
20 Jennifer JANSE van RENSBURG / Benjamin STEFFAN GER
21 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS IRL

Warm-Up Group 6
22 Katerina MRAZKOVA / Daniel MRAZEK CZE
23 Holly HARRIS / Jason CHAN AUS
24 Loicia DEMOUGEOT / Theo le MERCIER FRA
25 Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLER CZE
26 Hannah LIM / Ye QUAN KOR

Warm-Up Group 7
27 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA
28 Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS FIN
29 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN
30 Evgeniia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUD FRA
31 Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU

Warm-Up Group 8
32 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SOERENSEN CAN
33 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN
34 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA
35 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA
36 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR

Qualification rule: The best 20 skaters after Rhythm Dance will advance to the next segment.

 

[Karen-W]

Man - the last three men are gonna be a nail-biter on Saturday!

Men's FS starting order - http://www.isuresults.com/results/season2324/wc2024/SEG002.htm

Detailed Time Schedule - http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

StN. Name Nation Rank Points
Warm-Up Group 1
1 Hyungyeom KIM KOR 21 74.89
2 Sihyeong LEE KOR 24 73.23
3 Semen DANILIANTS ARM 23 73.46
4 Luc ECONOMIDES FRA 22 74.02
5 Andreas NORDEBACK SWE 20 76.20
6 Adam SIAO HIM FA FRA 19 77.49

Warm-Up Group 2
7 Camden PULKINEN USA 17 78.85
8 Gabriele FRANGIPANI ITA 13 82.63
9 Donovan CARRILLO MEX 15 80.19
10 Wesley CHIU CAN 18 78.00
11 Mikhail SHAIDOROV KAZ 16 80.02
12 Mark GORODNITSKY ISR 14 80.49

Warm-Up Group 3
13 Aleksandr SELEVKO EST 12 84.08
14 Roman SADOVSKY CAN 11 84.28
15 Kao MIURA JPN 10 85.00
16 Junhwan CHA KOR 9 88.21
17 Nika EGADZE GEO 7 92.08
18 Deniss VASILJEVS LAT 8 89.42

Warm-Up Group 4
19 Nikolaj MEMOLA ITA 6 93.10
20 Jason BROWN USA 4 93.87
21 Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI 5 93.41
22 Shoma UNO JPN 1 107.72
23 Yuma KAGIYAMA JPN 2 106.35
24 Ilia MALININ USA 3 105.97

 

[Karen-W]

Free Dance starting order - http://www.isuresults.com/results/season2324/wc2024/SEG008.htm

Detailed Time Schedule - http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

StN. Name Nation Rank Points
Warm-Up Group 1
1 Holly HARRIS / Jason CHAN AUS 16 71.44
2 Misato KOMATSUBARA / Tim KOLETO JPN 20 66.92
3 Carolane SOUCISSE / Shane FIRUS IRL 19 68.04
4 Yuka ORIHARA / Juho PIRINEN FIN 17 68.66
5 Natalie TASCHLEROVA / Filip TASCHLER CZE 18 68.25

Warm-Up Group 2
6 Loicia DEMOUGEOT / Theo le MERCIER FRA 11 75.74
7 Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKIN GEO 12 74.46
8 Katerina MRAZKOVA / Daniel MRAZEK CZE 13 73.05
9 Olivia SMART / Tim DIECK ESP 15 71.81
10 Hannah LIM / Ye QUAN KOR 14 71.89

Warm-Up Group 3
11 Laurence FOURNIER BEAUDRY / Nikolaj SOERENSEN CAN 10 75.79
12 Juulia TURKKILA / Matthias VERSLUIS FIN 9 75.89
13 Allison REED / Saulius AMBRULEVICIUS LTU 6 80.99
14 Christina CARREIRA / Anthony PONOMARENKO USA 8 79.26
15 Evgeniia LOPAREVA / Geoffrey BRISSAUD FRA 7 80.01

Warm-Up Group 4
16 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 5 82.30
17 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON GBR 4 84.60
18 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA 1 90.08
19 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 2 87.52
20 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER CAN 3 86.51