Explosion at Niagara Falls on U.S./Canada checkpoint

[Judy]

Whoa that car was flying literally.

That was a crazy amount of distance .

 

[Buzz]

Sorry for the victims and their loved ones. But must admit to being relieved that it was not a terrorist incident.

 

[Judy]

The latest .. returning from Ottawa’s cancelled Kiss concert https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kiss-fan-not-terrorist-crashes-005248401.html

Correction - it was the Toronto concert. The Ottawa concert was cancelled the night before the Toronto one.

Very sad though.

 

[Judy]

This is pretty funny though if you listen to the presidential candidate. He’d like to build a northern wall put a stop the underground tunnels being dug originating from Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/border-incident-erroneous-reporting-1.7036978?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

 

[ilovepaydays]

This is pretty funny though if you listen to the presidential candidate. He’d like to build a northern wall put a stop the underground tunnels being dug originating from Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/border-incident-erroneous-reporting-1.7036978?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

Vivek’s statements on various topics are discussed a bit in the Presidential campaign thread. I’ll just leave it at this: 1) Many Americans are concerned about national security and who’s coming into our country. I’m sure that Canadians have the same concern about their country as well, 2) The border between Canada and the USA is the longest international border in the world. It’s 2.8 times longer than the USA/Mexico border, if that tells you anything, and 3) Vivek is clearly either not understanding basic things or he’s intentionally selling a crock.

 

[Judy]

Vivek’s statements on various topics are discussed a bit in the Presidential campaign thread. I’ll just leave it at this: 1) Many Americans are concerned about national security and who’s coming into our country. I’m sure that Canadians have the same concern about their country as well, 2) The border between Canada and the USA is the longest international border in the world. It’s 2.8 times longer than the USA/Mexico border, if that tells you anything, and 3) Vivek is clearly either not understanding basic things or he’s intentionally selling a crock.

Sorry it wasn’t really a political thing for me though. But def drug dealers are not taking the time to build tunnels. Vivek is talking about fentanyl smuggling (Which is huge everywhere not just in the U.S.).

 

[ilovepaydays]

Fox News is reporting this as an attempted terror attack.

Statement from FBI - Buffalo.

Update from Bill Melugin (Fox News)

It apparently was a car full of explosives and the two men inside are dead. No word yet from CBP or on any other injuries.

The NY Intelligence Bulletin had just issued this terror alert last night with New York state being a focus!!!!

More reports of this confirming a terror attack - is it okay if I change my title on this thread?

My apologies for posting about the early reporting of this being terror related. But it’s still insane that the car was able get to that speed, jump that far, and then explode like that.

 

[allezfred]

I'm glad it turned out not to be terrorism.

As I am sure are the people in the Middle East who would have bombed into oblivion by the US and Canada.

 

[Judy]

My apologies for posting about the early reporting of this being terror related. But it’s still insane that the car was able get to that speed, jump that far, and then explode like that.

The speed was insane …

 

[Lynn226]

As I am sure are the people in the Middle East who would have bombed into oblivion by the US and Canada.

I don't know if that would have been the response, but every country has to respond to terrorism. My thoughts are with the loved ones of those who died.

 

[Judy]

As I am sure are the people in the Middle East who would have bombed into oblivion by the US and Canada.

You aren’t making sense with that comment.

 

[Lynn226]

You aren’t making sense with that comment.

It's a reference to something I said up thread. I said the U.S. and Canada would have to respond if it were an act of terrorism. I didn't say what I thought the response should be. That was before officials announced that it was an accident and not terrorism related.

 

[Judy]

It's a reference to something I said up thread. I said the U.S. and Canada would have to respond if it were an act of terrorism. I didn't say what I thought the response should be. That was before officials announced that it was an accident and not terrorism related.

Oh definitely. We were reacting (prime minister our agencies) and U.S. was definitely reacting. I caught part of it last night from Parliament. Thankfully it was not.

I did see someone posting on twitter that his/her family knew the man and that it had to be a mechanical error. Which is tragic if true.

 

[Parsley Sage]

The speed was insane …

Bentleys have very powerful engines. They have also had recalls about issues with the gas pedal.

 

[Aussie Willy]

Bentleys have very powerful engines. They have also had recalls about issues with the gas pedal.

Hmmm could there be a mechanical issue? It certainly did not look normal.

 

[Orm Irian]

Hmmm could there be a mechanical issue? It certainly did not look normal.

Another possibility is the driver having a medical issue that resulted in loss of consciousness and the car rapidly going out of control - the kind of thing the police are currently investigating re. the driver in the Daylesford pub crash.

 

[Judy]

Bentleys have very powerful engines. They have also had recalls about issues with the gas pedal.

There’s very little left of the car and well .. the deceased. I wonder if we’ll ever know.

 

[Parsley Sage]

Kurt and Monica Villani were the victims.

The family owned a local chain of lumber/hardware stores.

Friends mourn Grand Island couple killed in Rainbow Bridge crash

The husband and wife helped support Niagara Sailing Club on Grand Island

www.wgrz.com

 

[Aussie Willy]

For anyone interested in how this was initially reported, there is a very interesting podcast called Decoding Fox News. Juliet Jeske who runs the podcast goes through blow by blow about how Fox News started of from the get go saying it was a terrorist attack.

Bonus Podcast - Fox News: A Timeline About How a Jihadist Attack on America Was Really Just an Exploding Bentley

Listen to this episode from Decoding Fox News on Spotify. On Wednesday Nov. 22 Fox News called a car accident a terrorist attack for about 3.5 hours. They even implied it was carried out by a radical Islamic group as part of a jihad in response to the Israel-Hamas war. None of this was...

open.spotify.com

Not trying to make this political. But we should be concerned about how news networks can jump to conclusions without any basis of fact.