Kolyada Withdrawn from Olympics, Replaced by Semenenko

[barbarafan]

I am wondering if the O goes detected as negative for the C test? One of my friends had symptoms without fever and she got tested for C but it was negative. She has recovered. What if an athlete, after going to Beijing has flu like symptoms but tests negative to C, will they allow them to compete (if they are physically capable)? I believe the Olympic rules are for only the C testing daily.

I really hope StepBuk will be able to compete this time, regardless of where they place. It will be nice if they win a TE medal.

No-one should play with this thing. You can be so careful & then. I have been treated for almost a yr now for a severe autoimmune disorder & saw doctors b4 being discharged about the vaccine. (My age was just coming up when I was rushed to hospital) Doctors felt although vaccines could be a risk for me the risk of what would happen if I caught ******* was much greater. I got both my vaccines, always wore a mask when I left the house. Only went to 4 diff. stores who were so careful & had guards at the door watching. Until O never gave it a thought- it was a way of life. End December my son who is also so careful & often worked at home as he works in a hospital.....(in the computers, systems and in a lab)not with patients he went to a meeting (all protected)at another hospital then went to his usual hospital to get his booster....He had flu-like symptoms that night. Our pharmacy had given us a set of rapid tests a week before so he tested. He was positive. He checked again next morning. he was positive & left to get his PCR test. An hour later he was home and gave my husband and I each a test and we were positive. I assume we were O as my husband who has severe COPD and I with my problems both had no symptoms. My son was flu sick for about 5 days and he and my husband quarantined for 10 days. Because I am taking prednisone I had to quarantine for 21 days according to my GP. I now cannot get my booster for 3 months. There are so many ins and outs with this. If my son did not get sick (which could have been from the booster with O.) I would never have known I was positive.

 

[sus2850]

Sorry but this is simply not true with the O variant. I am vaccinated, received my booster, and go nowhere except to the supermarket once a week, where I am fully masked and keep my distance, and I got it. And that's after managing to avoid it for almost two years.

My experience was similar. I got it from touching something (in a hospital bathroom) and though I disinfected my hands, I probably did not wait the necessary time to dry my hands amd accidently touched my face after keaving to go outside and taking the mask off. O is very very hard to avoid.

 

[Vagabond]

Looks like Team Eteri is headed to Krasnoyarsk today

First prize is a week in Krasnoyarsk.
Second prize is two weeks in Krasnoyarsk.

 

[Ananas Astra]

Same with my mom. She barely left the house because she had to care for my dad who suffers from dementia. Her piano students came to our home and all of them have always been vaccinated and/or tested, as well as their parents.
It took my mom one trip to the grocery store to get the 'rona.
She took a self-test because my dad had started coughing. After an hour it was positive, so she took a PCR test which confirmed the result.
The same day my dad fell on his way to the bedroom and since my mom couldn't get him up and he was unable to use his legs, she called the ambulance and they tested him at the hospital and it turned out he had it as well.
Both had barely any symptoms, but it was a horrible time for all of us knowing that my dad was all alone in isolation at the hospital and no one told us what was up with him. And all of that just before Christmas.

 

[MacMadame]

If my son did not get sick (which could have been from the booster with O.)

I'm not sure what you are saying here. You can't get C0vid from any of the vaccines out there because they don't have live virus (or even attenuated virus). And the booster is just the same shot everyone got before as it hasn't been updated in any way for Omicron.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

It took my mom one trip to the grocery store to get the 'rona.

A CNN article I read last week said the grocery store is the number one place to catch it. Of course I was at Trader Joe’s earlier today and some customers were literally walking around without a mask

 

[maatTheViking]

I'm not sure what you are saying here. You can't get C0vid from any of the vaccines out there because they don't have live ***** (or even attenuated *****). And the booster is just the same shot everyone got before as it hasn't been updated in any way for Omicron.

I'm reading it as they could have dismissed the symptoms, as flu-like symptoms after a booster shot is a common side-effect, and thus NOT have taken the test, and then NOT have known they had gotten CV19.

 

[Mayra]

I'm curious what a bubble would look like in this situation. I'm assuming they're all staying in a hotel and training at a nearby rink?

Assuming that the bubble(newly created) does remain intact, I think the camp could work out in their favor. Especially if the variant is justing hitting Russia. Certainly no worse than training at home in Moscow or St. Petersburg with their 5million+ population and being dependent on each other to maintain some semblance of a protocol with family and friends. It's a crapshoot based on luck(or bad luck in this case).

 

[barbarafan]

I'm not sure what you are saying here. You can't get C0vid from any of the vaccines out there because they don't have live ***** (or even attenuated *****). And the booster is just the same shot everyone got before as it hasn't been updated in any way for Omicron.

I was talking about the side effects you can get from vaccines and/or the booster. The hospital he works in has had both staff and patient outbreaks (and people non-vaccinated) so not sure exactly where he picked it up. If he was exposed on same day he got the booster could be why he was sick. No one in the family got any kind of side effect from vaccine 1 and vaccine 2 but I know my brother was really exhausted for a week after booster and heard of others as well. My husband and I had appointment for jan 11 to get our booster so as we cancelled I don't know how I will react to it.

 

[Scott512]

I am wondering if the O goes detected as negative for the C test? One of my friends had symptoms without fever and she got tested for C but it was negative. She has recovered. What if an athlete, after going to Beijing has flu like symptoms but tests negative to C, will they allow them to compete (if they are physically capable)? I believe the Olympic rules are for only the C testing daily.

I really hope StepBuk will be able to compete this time, regardless of where they place. It will be nice if they win a TE medal.

I think you're going to something about the C test and that's what they're testing for maybe not the O test because they are very different. I would think if someone is not feeling well if they test negative they still go like athletes always do and like hundreds of millions of people around the world do every day go to work not feeling well doing their job not feeling well. It's just what human beings do.

I also hope the Bukin team gets to go. I hope Russia is allowed to fly their alternate skaters in on separate planes because they may need to go. Its unbelievable. The only thing that can stop KV is is the virus. That is a higher possibility in my opinion in sasha or Anna beating her outright.

 

[misskarne]

I don't know if Misha is asymptomatic but after the 5-day quarantine if an athlete is still asymptomatic and testing negative why can't they play their sport?

Others have addressed the other erroneous aspects of your post but I want to add: Mikhail was symptomatic - that was why he got tested in the first place. It was in the article.

 

[Scott512]

I'm curious what a bubble would look like in this situation. I'm assuming they're all staying in a hotel and training at a nearby rink?

Assuming that the bubble(newly created) does remain intact, I think the camp could work out in their favor. Especially if the variant is justing hitting Russia. Certainly no worse than training at home in Moscow or St. Petersburg with their 5million+ population and being dependent on each other to maintain some semblance of a protocol with family and friends. It's a crapshoot based on luck(or bad luck in this case).

Which bubble?

 

[Scott512]

Others have addressed the other erroneous aspects of your post but I want to add: Mikhail was symptomatic - that was why he got tested in the first place. It was in the article.

Yes. He was symptomatic. Talk about bad timing..

 

[Mayra]

Which bubble?

Wishful thinking?

I'm assuming they're creating as much of a bubble as they can based on the rumors of tighter restrictions at the training camp in light of the positive cases. See:

Стало известно, у кого зафиксированы положительные тесты на коронавирус на сборах фигуристов в Красноярске

На сборах национальной команды России по фигурному катанию у трех участников взяты положительные анализы на коронавирус.

m.sport-express.ru

 

[Rafter]

A CNN article I read last week said the grocery store is the number one place to catch it. Of course I was at Trader Joe’s earlier today and some customers were literally walking around without a mask

I was in Orlando, Florida in December and a majority of people at the shopping mall, the CVS pharmacy where I got my booster shot (god bless the USA), and the Four Seasons hotel were NOT wearing masks. It’s like COVID doesn’t exist in Florida. I realize Florida is not indicative of the whole of the US but it was eye-opening to me. You can’t go anywhere indoors in Canada without wearing a mask.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

I was in Orlando, Florida in December and a majority of people at the shopping mall, the CVS pharmacy where I got my booster shot (god bless the USA), and the Four Seasons hotel were NOT wearing masks. It’s like ********* doesn’t exist in Florida. I realize Florida is not indicative of the whole of the US but it was eye-opening to me. You can’t go anywhere indoors in Canada without wearing a mask.

Yes I have heard about that in Florida. But here in liberal West Hollywood, California just about everybody has masks all the time. It’s rare that you see people without one and I saw that at the grocery store today

 

[pointbleu]

Sorry but this is simply not true with the O variant. I am vaccinated, received my booster, and go nowhere except to the supermarket once a week, where I am fully masked and keep my distance, and I got it. And that's after managing to avoid it for almost two years.

Most people wear surgical mask over here and that’s a prerequisite for work. I don’t know what kind of mask and what quality of mask you wore. Rules are stricter over here. One colleague worked the day he got symptoms that night. None of his patients got infected.

Look at this graph. https://mobile.twitter.com/seungmin...93969.ampproject.net/2201141909003/frame.html

 

[soogar]

I was in Orlando, Florida in December and a majority of people at the shopping mall, the CVS pharmacy where I got my booster shot (god bless the USA), and the Four Seasons hotel were NOT wearing masks. It’s like ********* doesn’t exist in Florida. I realize Florida is not indicative of the whole of the US but it was eye-opening to me. You can’t go anywhere indoors in Canada without wearing a mask.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/florida-covid-cases.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/new-york-covid-cases.html

Just putting it out there and these are from the NY Times. We are wearing masks in New York and yet we still have high covid transmission rate. Florida is not wearing masks and their transmission rate is lower. Don't know how to do a tiny url but google times and case count and you will get all of this information. Florida keeps getting attacked for its mask policies but it is doing well.

 

[bladesofgorey]

Most people wear surgical mask over here and that’s a prerequisite for work. I don’t know what kind of mask and what quality of mask you wore. Rules are stricter over here. One colleague worked the day he got symptoms that night. None of his patients got infected.

Look at this graph. https://mobile.twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1478867026542219264?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1478867026542219264|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://d-36015608091414993969.ampproject.net/2201141909003/frame.html

That's great and all, but this chart is from before Omicron. Btw I got the Alpha version in April 2020 and my better half (who never got sick and did not go on to develop antibodies) was the only one who went out for groceries for us in the 3 weeks before I developed symptoms. The only place I went was a small dollar store to quickly buy some elastic for the cloth masks I was hand-making. Even though I was in and out in less than 5 minutes and wearing one of my cloth masks I still must have picked it up there. These posts are coming across as victim-blaming people who get sick despite taking all kinds of precautions and that chart seems pretty misleading to me since LOTS of people have caught this crud during interactions far shorter than any on the chart and that was before omicron. That said yes N95s are best and surgical masks if you can't get your hand on properly fitted N95s.

 

[Vash01]

Yes I have heard about that in Florida. But here in liberal West Hollywood, California just about everybody has masks all the time. It’s rare that you see people without one and I saw that at the grocery store today

Here in Arizona the grocery stores don't 'require' masks. They only 'encourage' those for Unvaccinated people. Same at the Verizon Store. This is crazy!

I visited Sedona, Arizona in October. Nobody wore masks. The hotel staff wore them but among the guests I was the only one who wore masks.

When I went to San Jose, I didn't see people wearing masks either. I didn't go shopping there, so I don't know how it is there.

I loved Hawaii because they are Very strict about masks. First, you cannot make it to the baggage claim without showing your 'fully vaccinated' QR. You cannot enter a hotel or restaurant, without showing your fully vaccinated card. Everyone is Required to wear a mask, except outdoors.

I am not surprised by Florida and Arizona neglecting masks. I was surprised when I saw many maskless people in the SF Bay Area.

Now I am completely OT

 

[skatingguy]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/florida-*********-cases.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/new-york-*********-cases.html

Just putting it out there and these are from the NY Times. We are wearing masks in New York and yet we still have high ********* transmission rate. Florida is not wearing masks and their transmission rate is lower. Don't know how to do a tiny url but google times and case count and you will get all of this information. Florida keeps getting attacked for its mask policies but it is doing well.

Florida Coronavirus Map and Case Count

See the latest charts and maps of coronavirus cases, deaths, hospitalizations and vaccinations in Florida.

tinyurl.com

New York Coronavirus Map and Case Count

See the latest charts and maps of coronavirus cases, deaths, hospitalizations and vaccinations in New York.

tinyurl.com

 

[bladesofgorey]

We are wearing masks in New York and yet we still have high ********* transmission rate. Florida is not wearing masks and their transmission rate is lower. Don't know how to do a tiny url but google times and case count and you will get all of this information. Florida keeps getting attacked for its mask policies but it is doing well.

Florida is NOT doing well. Florida isn't testing enough and isn't reporting cases properly.

 

[PRlady]

Florida cases are zooming despite the high vaccination rate. https://news.google.com/covid19/map

 

[Mayra]

I suppose it's a good thing the Russian team is training in Krasnoyarsk, and not Florida?

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Here in Arizona the grocery stores don't 'require' masks. They only 'encourage' those for Unvaccinated people. Same at the Verizon Store. This is crazy!

I visited Sedona, Arizona in October. Nobody wore masks. The hotel staff wore them but among the guests I was the only one who wore masks.

When I went to San Jose, I didn't see people wearing masks either. I didn't go shopping there, so I don't know how it is there.

I loved Hawaii because they are Very strict about masks. First, you cannot make it to the baggage claim without showing your 'fully vaccinated' QR. You cannot enter a hotel or restaurant, without showing your fully vaccinated card. Everyone is Required to wear a mask, except outdoors.

I am not surprised about Florida and Arizona neglecting masks. I was surprised when I saw many maskless people in the SF Bay Area.

Now I am completely OT

Yeah it’s crazy how it varies from region to region. I went on a quick ski trip one weekend in December and in Utah there is no masks to be found anywhere, lol just at Salt Lake City airport and that was it. When we were at dinner waiters and bartenders did not have masks on and I felt uncomfortable

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Florida is NOT doing well. Florida isn't testing enough and isn't reporting cases properly.

Yeah I would not trust anything coming out of Florida. They were notorious at the beginning for under reporting their cases. And they even had that poor woman whistleblower who was then attacked by their governor. I would say almost all statistics coming from Florida are questionable

 

[floridaice]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/florida-*********-cases.html

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/new-york-*********-cases.html

Just putting it out there and these are from the NY Times. We are wearing masks in New York and yet we still have high ********* transmission rate. Florida is not wearing masks and their transmission rate is lower. Don't know how to do a tiny url but google times and case count and you will get all of this information. Florida keeps getting attacked for its mask policies but it is doing well.

Florida's mask policies are not doing well, at all. Positivity rates are terrible -- all of the data is not released. Almost 50% of nursing home residents have not received booster shots. Orange County's (Orlando) top health official has been suspended by the state health department for encouraging his employee's to get vaccinated. Our Governor and State Surgeon General are idiots - don't believe a thing they say or information they release. The only saving grace is our weather -- we are not cooped up inside by snow and cold temps (when it does get cold, it's back to normal in a day or so). Delta was so bad here last summer because that is when everyone is inside.

 

[MacMadame]

When I went to San Jose, I didn't see people wearing masks either.

Was this during the period when only the unvaccinated had to wear masks? Because I live here and this is mask heaven compared to any other place I've been.

Seriously, at the meeting I was at tonight pretty much everyone was wearing either a surgical mask or a KN95 and no one was maskless. People wear them outside even.

 

[Vash01]

Was this during the period when only the unvaccinated had to wear masks? Because I live here and this is mask heaven compared to any other place I've been.

Seriously, at the meeting I was at tonight pretty much everyone was wearing either a surgical mask or a KN95 and no one was maskless. People wear them outside even.

This was in September, I think. Around the time when Tahoe was on fire, so we had to cancel our trip. So we just stayed in SJ. I was there for just 3-4 days, but I couldn't help noticing that many people did not wear masks. Even my niece who used to wear masks diligently had given up on it. It was like the pan...was over. May be the area made a U-turn after that.

It was not as bad as Arizona though. Here I wear masks even outside. In the grocery store I wear the K95. Very few people wear masks there. I use double masks When it is not the K95. If I am outside, going for a walk and no one is around, I wear a single mask and sometimes lower it to breathe in the fresh air when no one is within 10-15 ft of me. Usually there is no one within 30-40 ft of me.

I think AZ is not as bad as TX or FL but it never hurts to take as much precaution as possible.

 

[MacMadame]

This was in September, I think.

I've lost track of when we did what.

But starting June 15th or so, the rule was no masks for the vaccinated. Looked it up and Dec 15th is when the mandate for everyone to wear them came back. So, yeah, vaccinated people didn't have to wear masks when you were here and since so many are vaccinated, probably not a lot of people were wearing them.