2024–25 Canadian Women: News and Updates

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Meant to say too that for me at any rate it is less heartbreaking that 10th place was over 3 points ahead of Madeline's score and not just a whisker, like the LTU dance team missing the Free Dance and an Olympic berth by .01.
Though likely Madeline feels differently.
 

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Kind of interesting conversation on this podcast with Kaetlyn Osmond.

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-one-with-kaetlyn-osmond/id1654245018?i=1000697649085

I don’t think I’d ever heard the extend of her back injury during the Olympic year. She said it happened at SCI that season. She said they really had to cut back on her hours and numbers of jumps because of it. And some of her spins she only did in competition because of it.

And I find it somewhat shocking that they left the decision to her as to whether to skate both pieces of the team event. Let’s say she had decided to do both, I would have been absolutely livid if I were Daleman and national champion and world bronze medalist the year before and wasn’t given the opportunity by the federation to skate in the team event :shuffle:. I know she’d had a bit of a tough fall season, but her results probably should have been enough for her to be given that spot out right. I also would have said that the talk at the time was that Daleman was always going to be the one to do the free skate.

Also coming through very clearly is how much Kaetlyn never believed she was good enough to be one of the best. Which is too bad because, girl! You were one of the best ever. Going back and watching 2018, her skating holds up extremely well and the quality is so clear.

I think she’s had a bit of tough road since retiring, and still seems a bit at odds with her relationship with skating. But she seems happy now going to school and I wish her the best.
 

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I read a blog post by Kaetlyn about her experience at Worlds right after the Olympics that left me reeling. She really did have a tough time. As I remember it, she was so exhausted already, Worlds pushed her almost to breaking point. (I don't think the post is up anymore; she seems to have taken the blog down at some point.) I've always loved her skating, but I feel so much for what she went through. Glad she's in a better place mentally and emotionally.

And I will never again look askance at any skater who opts not to go to a post-Olympic Worlds.
 

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I just listened to the podcast during my run today. Good interview, but I thought who skated in the short and in the long (if the team made it to the long) was submitted prior to the competition. And only something like injury would a substitution be allowed. I suspect Gabby has her own version of the truth.
 

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For the TE, they have to provide a list of potential skaters for both programs. There's a deadline before the RD/SP's by which they have to declare the skaters for those programs. If they don't declare a substitute a certain amount of time after the RD/SP's, it's assumed, if they make the final, that the same skaters will do the FD/FS's.

I don't know if they can put a sub for each discipline in the initial pool and then decide which to sub in for the frees, or if they have to limit themselves to a max of two potential substitutes in the initial list. And, if they use a skater or team from the additional allotment pool, that skater or team can't be subbed.
 

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Kind of interesting conversation on this podcast with Kaetlyn Osmond.

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-one-with-kaetlyn-osmond/id1654245018?i=1000697649085

I don’t think I’d ever heard the extend of her back injury during the Olympic year. She said it happened at SCI that season. She said they really had to cut back on her hours and numbers of jumps because of it. And some of her spins she only did in competition because of it.

And I find it somewhat shocking that they left the decision to her as to whether to skate both pieces of the team event. Let’s say she had decided to do both, I would have been absolutely livid if I were Daleman and national champion and world bronze medalist the year before and wasn’t given the opportunity by the federation to skate in the team event :shuffle:. I know she’d had a bit of a tough fall season, but her results probably should have been enough for her to be given that spot out right. I also would have said that the talk at the time was that Daleman was always going to be the one to do the free skate.

Also coming through very clearly is how much Kaetlyn never believed she was good enough to be one of the best. Which is too bad because, girl! You were one of the best ever. Going back and watching 2018, her skating holds up extremely well and the quality is so clear.

I think she’s had a bit of tough road since retiring, and still seems a bit at odds with her relationship with skating. But she seems happy now going to school and I wish her the best.
Which podcast is it on? This link just takes me to the Apple podcasts home page. Thanks.
 

manhn

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The podcast is called Speakeasy with Kendra Fisher. An hour and 10 minutes long. Well worth the listen. Osmond always seems sad to me, but good for her ok working on herself.
 

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I just listened to the podcast during my run today. Good interview, but I thought who skated in the short and in the long (if the team made it to the long) was submitted prior to the competition. And only something like injury would a substitution be allowed. I suspect Gabby has her own version of the truth.
No, the feds don't have to decide who skates until after all of the SP/RDs are completed for the TE.

They have to submit the names of any skaters they might want to use before the TE starts - basically, everyone on the Olympic team in any disciple is included. They then decide prior to the SP/RD draw who is doing the first round, which doesn't eliminate anyone from the initial list for use in the FS/FD.

Once the SP/RDs are done, the feds then determine whether or not there will be any substitutions & in which disciplines - two max. Those have to be submitted within 15 min of the conclusion of the SP/RD segment and the first FS/FD happens the same day, so the feds generally know who will be substituted (if anyone), but there is a window there where they could, in theory, change their plan.
 

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