Ice dancer Mazingue faces inaction from authorities after rape complaint

Lara

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Solene’s very brave report was certainly the cherry on top of last night.

I couldn’t help being proud of IAM’s success since P&C and had always been a fan of Dubreuil/Lauzon. Will be hard to stomach seeing her in the kiss’n’cry from now on. So incredibly disappointed and disgusted.
 

Barbara Manatee

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I'm not going limit my disgust to Marie-France - the other coaches at IAM must have known about this. How is it possible that not a single one of them did anything to help one of their own?

I wonder what kind of discussions are going on amongst the skaters there right now? I hope they realize their coaches cannot be relied upon if something happens to them.
 

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Solene’s very brave report was certainly the cherry on top of last night.

I couldn’t help being proud of IAM’s success since P&C and had always been a fan of Dubreuil/Lauzon. Will be hard to stomach seeing her in the kiss’n’cry from now on. So incredibly disappointed and disgusted.
My sentiments exactly. Watching her cheer and support her skaters that are competing will only make her total lack of support for Solene seem that much worse. Hugs and smiles only for those who can help her career?
I'm not going limit my disgust to Marie-France - the other coaches at IAM must have known about this. How is it possible that not a single one of them did anything to help one of their own?

I wonder what kind of discussions are going on amongst the skaters there right now? I hope they realize their coaches cannot be relied upon if something happens to them.
That's EXACTLY my thought. Safesport and Skate Canada protocols dictates that any suspicion of misconduct requires reporting. It does not require first hand knowledge or witnessing of misconduct. Anyone who knew about her assault would be bound to report it. THEY ALL FAILED HER.

And I have to imagine, between the time of her telling them and her finally reporting it herself, she must have asked MF or any of the people she went to help for about the status of the situation. What could they have possibly said to her about their inaction?
 

Rob

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Why was it so hard to report this and let SafeSport investigators take over? Even if IAM is subject to Skate Canada and not USFS rules, it was sexual assault - something that could leave other skaters vulnerable. It isn’t like Desyatov was also her skater so she felt some sort of loyalty that required investigation or decision making on her part. It doesn’t even sound like she looked into it any further.
 

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Here, USFS has suspended Destyakov and may ban him. I hope that the Estonian Skating Union would provide Mazingue with whatever support it can, but I don't know what authority and resources it has. It’s also possible that USFS will refer the matter to prosecutors in Croatia.
Did these things happen because someone reported to the ISU? That was my question. What happens when skaters report misconduct to the ISU?

We know what happens when they report to federations and whatever version of SafeSport that country may have. What happens is very uneven. Some reports get immediate action. Some languish for years. Some are just ignored.
 

Sylvia

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Just saw this posted by "JudgeThree" on X: "Reporting sexual misconduct or even being a witness on behalf of a survivor in an allegedly confidential investigation is also career suicide within figure skating according to the lived experiences of many, although the TPTB would deny that of course."
It was in reply to to this first post: https://x.com/virtuemoired/status/1853876783642218547
 

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Just saw this posted by "JudgeThree" on X: "Reporting sexual misconduct or even being a witness on behalf of a survivor in an allegedly confidential investigation is also career suicide within figure skating according to the lived experiences of many, although the TPTB would deny that of course."
It was in reply to to this first post: https://x.com/virtuemoired/status/1853876783642218547

I imagine that IAM has done enough politicking that it could avoid some of this blowback - compared to, say, a newer coach at a rink without any "star" skaters - but there's more than a bit of truth in this.
 

Barbara Manatee

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Just saw this posted by "JudgeThree" on X: "Reporting sexual misconduct or even being a witness on behalf of a survivor in an allegedly confidential investigation is also career suicide within figure skating according to the lived experiences of many, although the TPTB would deny that of course."
For individuals - a reasonable fear. For one of the most politically connected and powerful schools in skating - not buying it. The USFS certainly wouldn't have pulled Chock/Bates or Car/Pon or any of its other teams for reporting Desyatov. Regardless, IAM had the status to challenge that lived experience and they didn't even try. So much for their "very high expectations for the fundamental values of Sport and Human Interaction."
 

kwanfan1818

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If it has anything to do with female genitalia, whether rape or consensual sex, it means the woman is messy, and messy is the worst crime in figure skating.
 

kosjenka

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Just saw this posted by "JudgeThree" on X: "Reporting sexual misconduct or even being a witness on behalf of a survivor in an allegedly confidential investigation is also career suicide within figure skating according to the lived experiences of many, although the TPTB would deny that of course."
It was in reply to to this first post: https://x.com/virtuemoired/status/1853876783642218547
I dont see anywhere JudgeThree post, but the virtumoiered account is run by a person who is full of “opinions” and no sources, but all gossip and uber fandom crap. Also all conspiracy theories about the favourite couple and how it was always everything against them.
Had she watched skating prior to 2018, she would coauthored Secret baby tumblr or Jessica Dube watchlist.
 

Sylvia

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I dont see anywhere JudgeThree post
Link: https://x.com/judgethree/status/1853893281450807742

Another related post: https://x.com/judgethree/status/1853999571820548106
The Center for SafeSport rarely issues sanctions for Failure to Report. When they do, the sanctions rarely affect participation with the consequence neither findings nor sanctions are ever public. Non-public sanctions can include education, probation, letter of reprimand, etc.
 

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