The Dance Hall 12: Boston Tea Dance Party

tangerine dream

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Bureaucratic processing time, Finland is not one of those countries where you get citizenship just by landing a thick wad of bills on the desk. I guess she didn't want to start the process before it was certain Finland gets two Olympic spots?
Also she has to take language fluency test, this might be challenging, although she knows some Finnish already.
Yes, I know the Nordic countries are generally difficult to get citizenship in (and for good reason, they are very desirable places to live). I was just wondering what the obstacles were more specifically if anyone happened to know.
 
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I'm really curious about this if anyone has any experience with this or knowledge of the process – what mechanism forces Orihara to renounce her Japanese Citizenship if granted Finish citizenship? Would the Japanese Government actively revoke her citizenship once Finish citizenship is granted? How does this actually work in practice?
Yuko Kawaguti, former Kawaguchi, did that.
 

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So did Cathy and Chris Reed, although neither was naturalized: they held dual citizenship at birth, which is allowed, but at 22 they had to decide.
 

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Sorry for the double posts, I am in a train in Italy, and the connection is tricky.
Orihara has started her citizenship process ages ago. The problem is that the goverment minister responsible is so anti-immigration, that the policy is strickt now.

And true, in Finland you can not buy citizenship. You have to wait. But with our current goverment, nothing is sure. Among the 4 parties ruling, there is one, whose main task not to let anybody to move to Finland, and the current immigration minister is one of those.
 

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Yes, I know the Scandinavian countries are generally difficult to get citizenship in (and for good reason, they are very desirable places to live). I was just wondering what the obstacles were more specifically if anyone happened to know.
There's accelerated process for 'special cases' (I suppose: famous athletes) but even that takes months. It would be so much easier in Qatar!
I'm sure it would be even harder for Juho to get Japanese citizenship. It probably has been simplified since then, but I read memoirs of an European who acquired Japanese citizenship in the 70s, and there were so many hoops and requirements that it was a nightmare. Officials he asked it about told him to forget the whole thing, "it is essentially impossible".
 

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Sorry for the double posts, I am in a train in Italy, and the connection is tricky.
Orihara has started her citizenship process ages ago. The problem is that the goverment minister responsible is so anti-immigration, that the policy is strickt now.

And true, in Finland you can not buy citizenship. You have to wait. But with our current goverment, nothing is sure. Among the 4 parties ruling, there is one, whose main task not to let anybody to move to Finland, and the current immigration minister is one of those.
I wish that minister could have been in the Garden on Saturday afternoon and seen how the Finns brought the house down. Do any Finns here know if there has been much media coverage of what the audience favorites they were?
 

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I wish that minister could have been in the Garden on Saturday afternoon and seen how the Finns brought the house down. Do any Finns here know if there has been much media coverage of what the audience favorites they were?
The minister in question, Mari Rantanen, has posted online, and made statements in support of claims of 'The Great Replacement Theory'. It doesn't sound like she would appreciate someone of Japanese ancestry representing Finland.
 

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Yeah, but most teams' idea of Italian is Mambo Italiano. They get to do Pagliacci only if they do the duet between Nedda and Silvio :grope:

L'elisir d'amore has the gorgeous Una furtiva lagrima plus a lot of upbeat music, but that's probably too light. Bellini's Norma has swoon-worthy music, but it won't get the crowd on their feet. If they have to pick a tragique warhorse, I hope it's La Traviata.

Someone has go to do a program to Pavarotti singing Nessun Dorma from the concert for the Torino Olympics, but not an FD.
Sadly, this would probably be impossible to skate to but I sure would love to see someone try 😈

 

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I'm really curious about this if anyone has any experience with this or knowledge of the process – what mechanism forces Orihara to renounce her Japanese Citizenship if granted Finish citizenship? Would the Japanese Government actively revoke her citizenship once Finish citizenship is granted? How does this actually work in practice?

As someone intimately familiar with this issue for other countries, the requirement is usually to announce your intention to renounce your other citizenship if it's not possible to hold more than one. Very rarely will a government office utilize resources to ensure this is actually done. It's an honor system more than anything. It obviously varies from country to country but usually such instances go under the radar unless there's an issue with publicity.

Representing another country at an Olympics probably gives enough publicity that would necessitate actually renouncing her JPN citizenship to ensure smooth transition back and no legal issues if she were to re-naturalize.
 

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Grunge, anyone? THE defining movement of the mid-90s from my hometown, though I was never a fan. I bet some of that would get the audience going.
 

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