Royalty Thread #10 -Archie Phase 2 - Bold and Bald Still

[mag]

Glad to see that George has been graduated to long trousers. Keeping him in shorts for so long seemed quite archaic.

Now I think it is time to lose the shirt with the blue piping. He has been wearing one like that since he was a year old. I love traditions and all, but I think that one has run its course.

 

[Lizziebeth]

I love that the Queen has her handbag!

 

[MsZem]

I love that the Queen has her handbag!

Mia Tindall wasn't there to steal it

 

[canbelto]

In the HBO special of Diana, William and Harry said Diana used to get a kick out of dressing them in the most archaic Downtown Abbey way.

I kind of wonder if we'll ever see Charlotte in pants. I've only seen her in super-girly dresses.

 

[mag]

William and Kate on their way to church with the Queen:

Entertainment Tonight

Entertainment Tonight (ET) is the authoritative source on entertainment and celebrity news with unprecedented access to Hollywood's biggest stars, upcoming movies, and TV shows.

etcanada.com

Apparently they are also hosting a house party for Kate’s birthday.

Edited for spelling

 

[Lorac]

Mia Tindall wasn't there to steal it

That is a gorgeous picture and Mia was so cute holding onto the handbag. Hopefully the Queen can get an updated picture with all her great grandchildren at some point as there are an additional 3 of them now!!

 

[mag]

That is a gorgeous picture and Mia was so cute holding onto the handbag. Hopefully the Queen can get an updated picture with all her great grandchildren at some point as there are an additional 3 of them now!!

That would be so cool!

 

[mag]

BBC will not air Beatrice’s wedding live:

Beatrice’s wedding will not be broadcast on BBC after Andrew scandal

ITV has refused to say yet if it will televise the royal's marriage to Italian property developer Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi.

metro.co.uk

 

[AxelAnnie]

BBC will not air Beatrice’s wedding live:

Beatrice’s wedding will not be broadcast on BBC after Andrew scandal

ITV has refused to say yet if it will televise the royal's marriage to Italian property developer Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi.

metro.co.uk

Why? I assume her father will not be there.

 

[JJH]

Didn't the BBC also decline to televise Eugenie's wedding, but ITV did televise it? Or am I remembering this incorrectly?

 

[kittyjake5]

Why? I assume her father will not be there.

Pretty sure he will.

 

[mag]

Didn't the BBC also decline to televise Eugenie's wedding, but ITV did televise it? Or am I remembering this incorrectly?

Yes. That is correct.

ETA: ITV have now declined to televise the wedding.

Now ITV says it won't screen Princess Beatrice's wedding

ITV made the decision despite devoting a whole morning schedule to Princess Eugenie's 2018 wedding to wine merchant Jack Brooksbank, 34, at Windsor Castle.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[AxelAnnie]

Pretty sure he will.

Geesh!

 

[aftershocks]

Pretty sure he will.

ITA. Prince Andrew attended church at Sandringham and he spent Christmas on the estate with his family, albeit 'under the radar.' He's still Beatrice's father and she surely loves him and I would expect that he will still walk her down the aisle (in private).

Didn't the BBC also decline to televise Eugenie's wedding, but ITV did televise it? Or am I remembering this incorrectly?

Yes. That is correct.

ETA: ITV have now declined to televise the wedding.

Now ITV says it won't screen Princess Beatrice's wedding

ITV made the decision despite devoting a whole morning schedule to Princess Eugenie's 2018 wedding to wine merchant Jack Brooksbank, 34, at Windsor Castle.

www.dailymail.co.uk

It's the media and broadcasters making all the fuss over this. All we've officially heard so far AFAIK is that Beatrice wants a more private wedding and that it's expected to take place in early June, although the exact date and venue has not yet been announced.

The public obviously will not be allowed access, unlike at Eugenie's wedding. It was Prince Andrew who pushed for the televising of Eugenie's wedding. He's always wanted his daughters to be given more public roles as part of the firm, while Prince Charles is known to prefer downsizing the royal firm and streamlining the number of family members on the Civil List.

Since the heightened negative publicity surrounding Prince Andrew, the royal family has surely had no intention of either expecting or allowing Beatrice's wedding to be televised. The public and media will be lucky if we get to see the release of official photos. If we see any photos, they may only be of the couple and not include Andrew.

H&M 6 week sabbatical in Canada must be coming to an end soon. I’d like to see a photo of the 14 million dollar mansion they were staying at.

FYI: A former property listing--

Mille Fleurs - An $18 Million Waterfront Estate In Canada

Share this home! This waterfront estate, named Mille Fleurs, is located at 525 Towner Park Road in Victoria, BC, Canada. It features an 11,416 square foot main houes and a 2,349 square foot guest cottage. As you pass through the gated entrance you are first greeted by the charming guest cottage...

homesoftherich.net

The Sussexes are surely back in England. It was announced today that they will be visiting Canada House tomorrow...

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Announce First Public Engagement of 2020

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Announce First Public Engagement of 2020

www.9news.com

About the artist (Skawennati) exhibit M&H will view:

Canada and the United Kingdom

www.canadainternational.gc.ca

 

[mag]

Harry and Meghan visited Canada House:

Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan to thank Canada for Christmas holiday

Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan want to thank Canada for the hospitality they received during their Christmas vacation in the Great White North.

vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca

And not a reflection on H&M, but I do wish people would just say “thank you” not “would like to thank.” The Buckingham Palace press off should know better. Kensington Palace also often uses that annoying phrase. I guess I am old fashioned, but it seems to me if you “would like to thank” then you should do just that.

 

[aftershocks]

The Sussexes "want to thank..." as in their desire is to thank the Canadian people and Canadian officials for their holiday hospitality, by visiting Canada House in London tomorrow.

The announcement was released today, the in-person thanking will occur tomorrow (as I previously posted). On Commonwealth Day in March 2019, M&H made a prior visit to Canada House ahead of the annual Commonwealth Day Service at Westminster Abbey.

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Step Out for Commonwealth Day — to See How Canadian Candy Is Made

The royal couple started their Commonwealth Day celebrations at the Canada House in London

people.com

 

[canbelto]

"I want to thank" has become a more formal way of thanking. Like think of how many awards show speeches start with "I want to thank my agent ..."

ETA: I have always disliked televised royal weddings, although I watch them. I find them intrusive. Weddings should be for family and friends, not the public.

 

[made_in_canada]

FYI: A former property listing--

Mille Fleurs - An $18 Million Waterfront Estate In Canada

Share this home! This waterfront estate, named Mille Fleurs, is located at 525 Towner Park Road in Victoria, BC, Canada. It features an 11,416 square foot main houes and a 2,349 square foot guest cottage. As you pass through the gated entrance you are first greeted by the charming guest cottage...

homesoftherich.net

Ha! I’ve ogled that house before. My ex-husband’s grandparents lived not far from it.

 

[aftershocks]

^^ Yep, @made_in_canada, there are many reports of how welcoming and laid-back Canadians are in that region. Some of the neighbors later discreetly spoke to media who were poking around for details. I'm linking the below article because it contains additional photos (despite the fact it's poorly written seemingly by a non-English speaker, or else poorly translated). I don't trust everything that's being said, of which some is second and third hand or entirely made up. Suffice to say, the Sussexes enjoyed their much needed vacation time.

A new book claims Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's tense relationship with Prince William and Kate Middleton was so bad they barely spoke

‘Finding Freedom’ claims that the relationship between the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Sussex has deteriorated terribly.

theunionjournal.com

Meghan Markle And Prince Harry's Christmas Getaway To Canada Was Arranged By David Foster

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry spent baby Archie's first Christmas in Canada, and they did so with a little help from a celebrity friend. Music producer Davi...

www.youtube.com

Meghan starred in two Hallmark romantic comedies filmed in Vancouver, Dater's Handbook (2016) and When Sparks Fly (2014) during hiatus from Suits. She remarked on her former Instagram how much she enjoyed those experiences and the gorgeous Vancouver setting. Surely it brought back fond memories for her to return to the area and spend quality time with her immediate family (Doria, Harry, Archie) and her closest friends (two of whom we know spent time with them are Janina Gavankar and Abigail Spencer).

I suppose residents of northern Washington state take the opportunity to cross the border often for hiking excursions and scenic vacation travel.

The Ugg booties Archie wore in the scenic photo with Harry had been gifted to the Sussexes in Australia during their South Pacific tour. Archie's knit cap with pom poms, and his cute jacket also have lovely back stories:

Mad About Meghan

A blog about Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex, covering her life, engagements, style, and everything else besides.

madaboutmeghan.blogspot.com

 

[mag]

"I want to thank" has become a more formal way of thanking. Like think of how many awards show speeches start with "I want to thank my agent ..."

Yep, I just don’t like it. It sounds pompous to me. Like I said, nothing to do with H&M specifically, I have noticed W&K use it and many others. It is right up there with using “myself” instead of “ me” or “I”. Now I find the misuse of “bring” rather than “take” grating so clearly I am terribly intolerant

 

[canbelto]

Yep, I just don’t like it. It sounds pompous to me. Like I said, nothing to do with H&M specifically, I have noticed W&K use it and many others. It is right up there with using “myself” instead of “ me” or “I”. Now I find the misuse of “bring” rather than “take” grating so clearly I am terribly intolerant

bc I have no life ... I spent some time on KP and TRF instagrams and did notice how often they use it. As well as Sussex Royal. But ... aren’t royals not supposed to directly thank? Like they’re royal so if they thank someone it’s showing that they’re not entitled to it? Or is that an antiquated rule?

in other news my co-teacher has a business partner who got knighted by the Queen. He only got to meet Willam however but said William was very nice and not “Royal” at all.

 

[aftershocks]

I have always disliked televised royal weddings

Good for you. Since I've enjoyed reading about and following British history and the British royal family for many years, I happen to enjoy watching televised royal weddings, just as I now enjoy learning more about QE-II's coronation, which was the first one ever televised. On Youtube, there's the actual b&w coronation, as well as a documentary about the behind-the-scenes planning and mishaps. I've also learned a lot and I've had a blast watching all the BBC documentaries about British castles and mansions, their history, family ownership, provenance and rigors of upkeep in the modern world. Below are just a few:

Windsor Castle: A Royal Year

Windsor Castle A Royal Year -The Four Seasons 464

www.youtube.com

*Secrets of Althorp: The Spencers (featuring Diana's brother, Earl Spencer) *Just added, I forgot to include earlier

YouTube

www.youtube.com

Secrets of Chatsworth (home of the Dukes of Devonshire)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw54CrzpR-4 (there may be a better copy of this on Youtube)

High Stakes at Highclere (home of the Caernarfon family, and site where Downton Abbey was filmed)

High Stakes At Highclere (British Aristocracy Documentary) | Timeline

Before it became the setting for the hit series 'Downton Abbey', Lord and Lady Carnarvon opened the doors of Highclere Castle, their stunning lakeside countr...

www.youtube.com

Inside Britain's Super Rich Longleat Estate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMLWf1Zyd_k Ep. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9Df7rErNiw Ep. 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8qL7Fl2CEQ Ep. 3
The first episodes in this series about the Earl of Weymouth, his wife Emma Viscountess Weymouth, and the Longleat inheritance were filmed prior to her first pregnancy and difficult birth which was covered in the third episode. They subsequently had a second son by surrogacy:

Meet the Viscountess Transforming the Idea of British Aristocracy

Emma Thynn, an extraordinary cook and mother who is positioned to become Britain’s first black marchioness, has recast the mold of aristocracy with her stylish, entrepreneurial spirit—despite a strained relationship with her in-laws.

www.vanityfair.com

Here's a brief follow-up on the Weymouths and Longleat, in 2018:

Introducing Longleat's Food & Drink Festival with Lady Emma

Find out more about this year's exciting Longleat Food and Drink Festival and book your tickets by visiting www.longleat.co.uk/food-festival

www.youtube.com

Growing Up in a Stately Home

YouTube

www.youtube.com

Treasure Houses of England: Harewood Court

The Treasure Houses of England - Harewood House Yorkshire

www.youtube.com

More views of Harewood, built upon the slave-owning wealth of Edwin Lascelles, 1st Baron Harewood
QE-II is related to the Lascelles family via the marriage of her Aunt, Princess Mary, to Henry Lascelles

Harewood House

Harewood House is a country house in Harewood near Leeds, West Yorkshire, England. Designed by architects John Carr and Robert Adam, it was built, between 17...

www.youtube.com

Highgrove House

Highgrove House

Highgrove House is the family residence of Charles, Prince of Wales, and Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, situated south west of Tetbury in Gloucestershire, Eng...

www.youtube.com

Country House Rescue: Elmore Court

Country House Rescue - Elmore Court

See where Elmore Court is now at www.elmorecourt.com... But back in 2007, which is when Anselm inherited the Court, we featured on Channel 4's 'Country House...

www.youtube.com

Lucy Worsley is known for presenting a number of historic documentaries about British monarchy, country houses, castles, British cultural traditions, etc. Here's a partial playlist:

Jane Austen: Behind Closed Doors (English Literature Documentary) | Timeline

Lucy Worsley explores the different houses in which Jane Austen lived and stayed, to discover just how much they shaped Jane's life and novels. On a journey ...

www.youtube.com

There's a fascinating book entitled Victoria's Daughters, by Jerrold M. Packard. Perhaps this 2-part documentary was based on the book:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tysr2GAGeBQ Pt. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYnZKKthfmo Pt. 2
The Sons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-dv3SNSzkg

Anyone who doesn't enjoy royal weddings can skip these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w30XgACSAg The royal weddings that shaped European history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htSvZDvIf5I Royal wedding dresses: a history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUfwpU2B7qg Beautiful British royal brides pt.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4xtVgK8A6A " " pt.2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYoiY98V-T0 10 most controversial royal weddings (albeit overdone gossip)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsWb4W22Jl0 15 most expensive wedding dresses of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyC4KO_uXtM Top 10 ugliest wedding dresses

Bottom line, the history of royal families and of aristocratic/ upper-class families is fascinating and larger than life. It tells us a lot about human and cultural history, wars, the building up and toppling of nations. It can be a soap opera as well as providing insight into human nature and family dynamics. Why do you think Upstairs, Downstairs and Downton Abbey were such runaway hits for Masterpiece Theater?

ETA: Moreover, it was Queen Victoria who started the trend for brides wearing white. In addition, there's so much about the Victorian era that continues to inform subsequent centuries (good and bad). Some fascinating facts about British royal weddings I discovered in these books:
Five Gold Rings - A Royal Wedding Souvenir Album: From Queen Victoria to Queen Elizabeth II; and
Royal Wedding: The Souvenir Album, by Alison James.

I would love to see Princess Beatrice's wedding televised, but I totally understand why it will be kept low key and private, as opposed to Princess Eugenie's nuptials. In any case, since Princess Beatrice with her big eyes looks a bit like her historic namesake (QV's youngest daughter), it would be rather historic to be able to see Beatrice's wedding take place in living color and to see her be the focus (not her father) while walking down the aisle in a gorgeous wedding dress. Sigh...

Here's rare footage of Queen Elizabeth II in her own words talking about what matters most to her -- duty and service above all, family, and her love for animals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh1-9ww_HmM "Continuity is very important... It is a job for life..."

 

[Vagabond]

Queen Elizabeth II Address to the United Nations General Assembly delivered 21 October 1957

I thank you, Mr. President, for your words of welcome.

knows how to give thanks.

 

[Karen-W]

I suppose residents of northern Washington state take the opportunity to cross the border often for hiking excursions and scenic vacation travel.

While I'm sure there are many Washingtonians who enjoy crossing the border into BC for hiking vacations and scenic travel, there are just as many opportunities for amazing hiking and scenic travel in their own state. And I say this as a native Oregonian who thinks that Oregon is the most beautiful state/province in the PNW! We are really lucky, in our corner of the world, to, basically, have it all.

 

[Jenny]

"I want to thank" has become a more formal way of thanking. Like think of how many awards show speeches start with "I want to thank my agent ..."

First thing I thought of when this was first mentioned, how they do it on awards shows all the time. To me, saying it like that makes it more about the speaker than the person being thanked, which kinda supports why royalty and movie stars do that.

^^ Yep, @made_in_canada, there are many reports of how welcoming and laid-back Canadians are in that region. Some of the neighbors later discreetly spoke to media who were poking around for details.

Is there any such thing as discreetly speaking to media?

 

[Wyliefan]

First thing I thought of when this was first mentioned, how they do it on awards shows all the time. To me, saying it like that makes it more about the speaker than the person being thanked, which kinda supports why royalty and movie stars do that.

I seriously doubt that anyone who's ever used the phrase has put nearly that much thought into it. I never have, and I'm a writer/editor who makes my living obsessing over the exact right way to use words.

 

[MsZem]

To me "thank you" is what you say when you're communicating directly with the person, and "I would like to thank" is more appropriate when you have a larger audience and the message is more indirect.

Prince Charles is coming to visit us later this month:

New details about Prince Charles’s visit to Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories announced

New details about the Prince of Wales’s upcoming visit to Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories were released by Clarence House on Monday. Prince Charles will visit Israel and the Occupie…

royalcentral.co.uk

CP Mary and the kids have relocated to Switzerland for the upcoming school term:

Princess Mary of Denmark joins family for a photocall in Switzerland

The Danish royal family looked in high spirits as they posed for a family photocall in Switzerland today.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[mag]

From Harry and Meghan’s visit to Canada House:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/harry-meghan-canada-house-skawennati-1.5417821

They both look happy and well rested.

 

[aftershocks]

... Is there any such thing as discreetly speaking to media?

Ah true, true -- an oxymoron. Therefore, I should rephrase that when asked by prying media, the locals spoke up even at the same time wishing the Sussexes a peaceful, secure and relaxing vacation. Even the cafe owner who initially said they rejected giving the Sussexes a reservation due to their security needs, wished the Sussexes privacy at the same time she was revealing their Canadian location. Likely, the cafe owner partially spoke out for the publicity she thought it might provide her establishment, little realizing she would also be generating a bit of bad publicity in some respects...

Details of the Sussex visit to Canada House today, as written on a Meghan fan blog ran by a woman who also has a Kate fan blog: https://madaboutmeghan.blogspot.com/
A CBC report of the visit with royal reporter, Omid Scobie:

Prince Harry and Meghan visit Canada House

Prince Harry and Meghan returned to official royal duties Tuesday with a visit to Canada House in London. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex met with Canada’s Hi...

www.youtube.com

Additional video of the actual visit and tour of the Skawennati artist exhibit:

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry visit Canada House in first public appearance of 2020

Britain's Prince Harry and wife Meghan Markle visited Canada House in London on Tuesday to thank the High Commissioner for the hospitality they received duri...

www.youtube.com

Here's a video I missed last October of young Princess Leonor of Spain giving her first speech, witnessed by her sister and her parents: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B0WMgF2EDg

And,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b5lvYlccqc The Young Future Queens of Europe
Some of these young princesses have younger brothers, but they will not be skipped over in the line of succession

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPdVk33b8a4 38 Royal Kids age 19 and under...

 

[aftershocks]

We are really lucky, in our corner of the world, to, basically, have it all.

Yep, definitely. There are so many wonderful, scenic regions throughout the U.S. Even in my state of Ohio, there's so much history and actually so much to see and to learn that can't be included in one lifetime.

The beauty of our natural resources is one more reason why it's crucial for more to be done about the damaging environmental effects that are increasing as a result of climate change. We can see it in the dying off of certain insects as their habitats are destroyed, and in the drastic weather changes and natural disasters occurring on a more frequent and heightened level, among other incidents...


Reportedly, the Sussexes privately visited the Hubb Community Kitchen ahead of their visit today to Canada House. I have been trying out recipes from Meghan's first project, Together: Our Community Cookbook, which makes a great gift, btw. So far, I've used the Green Omelette recipe a lot, and recently I tried making the Spiced Potato Kibbeh (a Lebanese/Middle Eastern/North African dish). Yum! Of course, we can google such recipes too and find variations. Still, I love looking through the Together Cookbook and planning my next cooking effort, which will probably be Iraqi Lamb Croquettes, but I will use ground turkey or chicken instead of lamb, so Iraqi Turkey Croquettes. Also, I want to try making Mahamri (African Beignets), a light, fluffy bun that goes well with jam or with anything.

I often substitute ingredients. For example, I have largely cut out onions and garlic from my diet, so I substitute fresh or bottled chopped chives instead of onions, and I'll use celery or celeriac root, and/or carrots in place of garlic, and squash instead of eggplant. Also when cream or whole milk is called for, I generally use coconut cream and almond or coconut milk. I also use gluten free stone ground grain/beans for all-purpose flour; and brown rice flour, etc. Bobs Mills is a brand that makes these specialty flours. I sometimes use butter, but I'll also substitute with ghee instead (a clarified butter which originated in ancient India, and is healthier). Ghee is rather expensive, but worth it.

For desserts, I'd like to try the Cardamom Bread & Butter Pudding, and the Carmelized Plum Upside Down Cake. In addition, today I heard about the Nanaimo Bars served at Canada House for M&H, which they enjoyed during their vacation visit in Canada apparently. The ingredients sound delicious: layers of chocolate, custard, coconut & water, and wafers. Here's an online recipe that apparently uses graham crackers instead of wafers:

Nanaimo Bars

These Nanaimo bars have three layers of coconut-graham crust, thick custard, and silky chocolate. A delicious no-bake bar worth the effort to make!

www.allrecipes.com