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North Korea isn't banned by the IOC, or the ISU, from competing internationally, but to say that anyone from North Korea is free to due anything is so ignorant that I was looking for a more specific answer to what @caseyedwards meant. I'm not sure if any North Koreans currently competing in international sports, but they had been pulled from all events during the pandemic, and no North Korean athletes participated in the 2022 Winter Olympics.
In addition to the 2 female divers as mentioned by @danafan, there will be at least 2 boxers from North Korea in Paris, as 2 women won medals at the Asian Games last fall to qualify.
 

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Goodness.

“In the period from 01.01.2020 to 31.12.2021 the athlete Kamila Valieva was given the following medications, sports nutrition and dietary supplements by the Center’s doctors Mr Adamov, Mr Shvetskiy and Mr Shumakov: Amino Vital Multi Energy, Stimol, oral injection solution, Magnelis B6, Vitrum Superstress, Panangin Forte, Hypoxen capsules, L-Carnitine, fluid Mg complex, Kreon, Flitrum-STI, Imudon, Polyoxidonium, Ibuclin, Versatis plaster, Sustamin, Nimesulid, Traumeel S, Supadryn, ISODRINX, Orthomol Sport, Geladrink, Agisept, Grippferon, Doppelhertz aktiv, CoQ10, Glycine, Tot’hema, Ketrolac, Sorbifer Durules, Riboxin, Berocca Plus, Gorpils, Maxilac, Omega 3, Stimol, Amino Vital, Bilactin, Diara, Metoclopramide, Voltaren, Junior Active Complex, SportExpert, BCAA+, Esslial Forte, Amino Vital Gold, Aspirin C, Valmedin drops, Guarana 300, Carmolis lolly, Coldrex Maksgrip, Creatine Ox, Xylometazoline, Tot’hema, Cytovlavin pills, Tilaxine, Calcimine Advance, Imudon, Hypoxen, Alfa Normix, ACC … .”

Little wonder Kamila had no idea what she was taking.

She made three arguments for unintentional doping:

a) The first version was it happened at lunch with her grandfather on a training day. “Yes we had lunch, Grandfather also often gave me something like apple pure or a berry sweet made from berries … condensed milk, bananas or some juice, and maybe … He also takes pills following the doctors’ recommendations and, probably, this pill got into a dessert, which he usually gives to me. Or, I saw a few times accidentally, that he crushed the pills with the knife and dissolves them in a glass, and took them. So I might have drunk from the same glass or there, at home, I might have eaten something from the same chopping board and so on.”

b) The second version is “the contamination of some medications, as this happened before, those situations arose and that is why that could not be excluded”.

c) The third version: “In St Petersburg, in comparison with organisation of other events, with … Sochi or Olympic Games … the narrative during the Russian Championship in St Petersburg was not really good as the premises where the athletes were coming in, warming up, eating and generally getting ready before start, were full of strangers, who definitely should not be there. So, there were a lot of relatives of the athletes, who were freely moving around, had … free access to the dressing room as well as to the area where athletes were eating. Mother’s friend also got an accreditation, however, I cannot say that she is somehow relevant to sport, but she still got the accreditation with high level of access, so she could get to the areas … .”


Conspiracy!
 

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Ms Tutberidze was aware that Dr Shvetskiy had been accused of violating antidoping rules but did not consider this an issue given that “he does not manage the medical treatment and provide medical support to the athletes but organizes the additional medical observation, consultations as well as escorts the team to the competitions as a sports doctor for the provision of the first aid”. The Russian Figure Skating Federation had no objections regarding the appointment of Dr Shvetskiy as a team doctor.

Throw that shade.
 

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397. The Athlete provided a witness statement and appeared before the Panel. It has to be said that the Panel found her to be an honest, straightforward and credible witness and her protestations of innocence believable. She is plainly an intelligent and articulate young woman.

398. Nevertheless, standing alone, these protestations are manifestly insufficient to discharge her burden of showing that she did not commit the ADRV intentionally. This is one of those cases where the statements on the part of the Athlete that she did not intentionally ingest the Prohibited Substance are simply too slender a basis to conclude that the ADRV was committed unintentionally.
 

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The essential components of the explanation relating to Mr Solovyov (referred to by RUSADA as the “Grandfather Explanation”)

:lol:

And then there are pages examining the Grandfather Explanation.

Further, even if the Grandfather Explanation is accepted by the Panel, the Athlete “did not act with the ‘utmost caution’ because she did nothing at all to manage a risk that she should [have been] aware of. It would have been reasonable to expect any athlete who is spending a lot of time with someone that (a) she knows has a serious health condition and (b) is using medication to at the very least warn that person that they need to be careful with their medications”.

The Athlete was aware of her anti-doping responsibilities and of the need to avoid all Prohibited Substances. She was also aware that Mr Solovyov was using medications at the time he was preparing food for her. This is “an obvious risk” that she should have managed if she were exercising utmost caution.
 

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c. The question is: did the Athlete take the TMZ intentionally?

d. In the ISU’s submission, it is more likely than not that she did so. That she did so finds support from the following matters:

a) The Athlete was taking Hypoxen and L-carnitine. There is expert evidence to suggest that TMZ has a synergistic relationship with these substances.
b) Mr Solovyov is unrelated to the Athlete.
c) Despite the fact that he had a weak heart and had suffered four heart attacks, Mr Solovyov drove two hours every day to drive the Athlete to the Ice Palace which was 200m away from the Athlete’s apartment.
d) The Athlete did not provide any evidence that her mother’s work prevented her from preparing food for the Athlete.
e) Mr Solovyov said that his handling of his medication was affected by his poor eyesight and yet in the two video recordings of his depositions he was not wearing glasses.
f) No medical records were produced in relation to Mr Solovyov’s heart condition between a 2008 medical record and the undated medical record following the Beijing Olympics.
g) When someone takes medication twice a day, it is usually once in the morning and once in the evening and yet Mr Solovyov speaks of chewing his pills while driving the car and taking his medication at noon.
h) Mr Solovyov refused to participate directly in the hearings.
i) Mr Solovyov refused any direct interview with RUSADA.
j) While the Athlete claims to have received a dessert from Mr Solovyov for her trip to St Petersburg, which may have been contaminated with TMZ, she offered no evidence from other athletes who travelled with her about that dessert.


And just for @caseyedwards:

Whether or not the concentration of TMZ detected in the Athlete’s Sample improved performance or not is “irrelevant”.
 

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Goodness.

“In the period from 01.01.2020 to 31.12.2021 the athlete Kamila Valieva was given the following medications, sports nutrition and dietary supplements by the Center’s doctors Mr Adamov, Mr Shvetskiy and Mr Shumakov: Amino Vital Multi Energy, Stimol, oral injection solution, Magnelis B6, Vitrum Superstress, Panangin Forte, Hypoxen capsules, L-Carnitine, fluid Mg complex, Kreon, Flitrum-STI, Imudon, Polyoxidonium, Ibuclin, Versatis plaster, Sustamin, Nimesulid, Traumeel S, Supadryn, ISODRINX, Orthomol Sport, Geladrink, Agisept, Grippferon, Doppelhertz aktiv, CoQ10, Glycine, Tot’hema, Ketrolac, Sorbifer Durules, Riboxin, Berocca Plus, Gorpils, Maxilac, Omega 3, Stimol, Amino Vital, Bilactin, Diara, Metoclopramide, Voltaren, Junior Active Complex, SportExpert, BCAA+, Esslial Forte, Amino Vital Gold, Aspirin C, Valmedin drops, Guarana 300, Carmolis lolly, Coldrex Maksgrip, Creatine Ox, Xylometazoline, Tot’hema, Cytovlavin pills, Tilaxine, Calcimine Advance, Imudon, Hypoxen, Alfa Normix, ACC … .”

Little wonder Kamila had no idea what she was taking.

….
That’s a lot of sh…!
 

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@Prancer, you're a star for posting all this!
:encore:

But most of the report is a lot of legalese about jurisdiction and such. I think the basics have already been covered in earlier reports, but the bottom line seems to be

The Russian team's reputation:

a. As explained by Prof. Schumacher and Dr Iljukov, TMZ is recommended for use in Russian sport. It has been recommended in the Russian National Guidelines on Sports Medicine and a review of the scientific literature in Russia shows that “TMZ is widely recommended in elite sport in particular in support of the heart in connection with heavy training” – in circumstances where the Athlete was diagnosed with a heart condition at the end of 2020.

b. Russian medical literature indicates that TMZ is also prescribed to young athletes. Ex 45 ref 10 and 11

c. The Athlete was using Hypoxen and L-Carnitine at the time of the positive doping control (as disclosed on the DCF) and was also using Ecdysterone (which was not disclosed on her DCF but was detected in her Sample by the Stockholm Laboratory). Prof. Schumacher and Dr Iljukov state that these three substances as well as TMZ are “typical pharmacological support provided to athletes in Russia to assist in heavy training load and improve recovery” and that there is likely a synergistic relationship among Hypoxen, L-carnitine and TMZ.

d. The Athlete was using products beyond Hypoxen, L-carnitine and Ecdysterone. According to FMBA, for the two year period 2020-2021 the Athlete was given approximately 60 different medications and supplements.


e. Ms Tutberidze was the Athlete’s head coach. In an interview in 2019 Ms Tutberidze confirmed that meldonium was provided to Russian athletes for improved recovery and in support of the heart muscle and that after meldonium was banned by WADA in 2016 “we had to look for something new”. TMZ and meldonium have similar properties.

f. Dr Shvetskiy (who was named by the Athlete as her doctor in the DCF) was sanctioned in 2007 for the use of substances by a prohibited method and in 2016 a sample of one of his skaters was found to contain meldonium.


Combined with pretty much total disbelief of the Grandpa story and:

Even if the Athlete’s Grandfather Explanation is taken at face value, the Athlete’s level of fault is significant. In particular:

a. There is no independent evidence of any diligence on the part of the Athlete. There is no evidence that she cross-checks her medications/ supplements against the Prohibited List.

b. The Athlete was “astonishingly careless”. She knew that her grandfather was taking pills and that he was crushing them on a chopping board on which he also prepared food for her. She also knew there was a risk of contamination. Nonetheless, she did not ask anyone what the pills were or take any steps to make sure that the pills or any residues would not get into her system. She also admitted that she might have shared a glass with her grandfather or that she might have taken one of his pills.

c. The fact that the Athlete was a minor at the time should not be brought to account when assessing fault. She is an experienced athlete, with significant anti-doping experience. She is knowledgeable of the degree of care that is required to avoid ingesting a prohibited substance.
 

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It is 'inherently implausible' that an athlete at this elite level would take a homemade strawberry dessert with her across Russia and eat it during a competition period.

:rofl:
Apparently they never heard about Linda Fratianne ordering cheesecake from room service every day at the Olympics.

But Kamila's dessert sounds like a smoothie---ewwwwww to keeping that around for days.
 

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Holy Moly :sekret:
I was pretty startled when I saw that, but I think it just means that the lawyers didn't provide any documentation to support his existence, just testimony from Kamila, her mother and the man himself in taped depositions.

Their later point that he isn't actually related to Kamila was also :confused:, as he was clearly taking care of her, whether she is his biological grandchild or not.
 

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