Let's Talk Movies #36 - 2020 - Yep it is a new decade

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I read a plot summary of The Substance and there isn’t enough money on earth to pay me to see that movie.

I’ll admit that I have mixed feelings about whether I will actually see The Substance. I only like certain types of horror movies, and body horror can be too much 😬 for me. But I’m 🤔 about the hype around Demi Moore’s performance.
 

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So I watched "Challengers" as my last movie of my movie binge day. Kind of :huh: at the critical acclaim it got when it came out, as the storyline seemed incredulous and being a big tennis fan, I didn't buy either of the male leads with their clunky foot action as tennis players. A lot more style than substance in this movie.
 

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Finally sat through "Dune, Part 2," today as well... good law how many are they going to make?
There are 23 official Dune books. ;)

I read a plot summary of The Substance and there isn’t enough money on earth to pay me to see that movie.
I have seen a few YouTube commentaries about it and my feelings are (a) it looks awesome and Demi Moore is awesome in it and (b) I will never, ever, ever, ever watch it. :lol:
 

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I’ll admit that I have mixed feelings about whether I will actually see The Substance. I only like certain types of horror movies, and body horror can be too much 😬 for me. But I’m 🤔 about the hype around Demi Moore’s performance.

I’ve been a fan of horror movies for a long time, but I never heard of body horror until this film. And I was like what does that even mean …..

And @PRlady why don’t you want to see this movie? So much for women supporting other women. I think that is a strong theme of this movie. Meaning, I walked out of this film, thinking women need to bond together against the male dominance of what a woman should be.

Can someone give me an example of another film that’s in the body horror category? I mean I think of self mutilation when I think of that.

By the way, does anyone ever go to YouTube and watch reaction videos? I have watched so many reaction videos to the movie the others and it’s always so cool to see everyone watch the twist.
 

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:rofl: Saldana makes zero sense to be in the supporting actor race, or Grande. I'd wager Saldana actually has the most screen time of the female leads in "Emilia Perez," and Grande in "Wicked," although she'll have less in the next part (and it's definitely not a supporting role). More weird Hollywood politicking there.
Someone on Reddit timed it and Saldana has about 5-6 minutes less screen time than Karla Sofia Gascon. Though many still argue that Saldana should be in Lead Actress. I haven't seen the movie so I don't have a horse in that race.

Grande going in Supporting instead of Lead is almost definitely to avoid vote splitting with Erivo.
I’ve been a fan of horror movies for a long time, but I never heard of body horror until this film. And I was like what does that even mean …..

And @PRlady why don’t you want to see this movie? So much for women supporting other women. I think that is a strong theme of this movie. Meaning, I walked out of this film, thinking women need to bond together against the male dominance of what a woman should be.

Can someone give me an example of another film that’s in the body horror category? I mean I think of self mutilation when I think of that.

By the way, does anyone ever go to YouTube and watch reaction videos? I have watched so many reaction videos to the movie the others and it’s always so cool to see everyone watch the twist.
Body horror specifically is about the human body being altered in grotesque ways. That can be self mutilation but sometimes it's something that happens to the body via an other external force. I can't handle it personally, I'm already too much of a wuss for horror, throwing dramatic and grotesque body alterations pushes it right over the top for me.
 

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I’ve been a fan of horror movies for a long time, but I never heard of body horror until this film. And I was like what does that even mean …..

And @PRlady why don’t you want to see this movie? So much for women supporting other women. I think that is a strong theme of this movie. Meaning, I walked out of this film, thinking women need to bond together against the male dominance of what a woman should be.

Can someone give me an example of another film that’s in the body horror category? I mean I think of self mutilation when I think of that.

By the way, does anyone ever go to YouTube and watch reaction videos? I have watched so many reaction videos to the movie the others and it’s always so cool to see everyone watch the twist.
I can’t watch any horror movies and even movies with a great deal of gore. Meaning there are violent films or just hard to stomach films I’ve never seen. From Pan’s Labyrinth to Silence of the Lambs to Get Out, people see them and say how good they are and then turn to me and say, it’s not for you of course.

The message of the movie sounds good but I’ll never see it. Even watching Shogun I left the room for the hari-kiri.
 

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Finally sat through "Dune, Part 2," today as well... good law how many are they going to make? I thought this was it. Not as boring as the first, but Zendaya's character was the only one I cared anything about. I'll agree with someone's posts above that Austin Butler made a good villian in the limited time he had on screen. But ugh the storyline is convoluted and slow moving and the religious subplots are a bore.

I found Part 1 to be a bit too slow moving for my taste, but I didn't think Part 2 was that way at all. There was a lot of action, right from the opening scenes. But then I did find the religious aspects to be interesting, especially the way that Paul came to embrace the destiny that he originally rejected. The evolution of his character from idealistic youth to dark messiah was fascinating to me. I found Chani to be quite shallow and immature by comparison. Although normally I do like Zendaya, I didn't like the way Chani was portrayed and how drastically it differed from the books. :unsure: To each his/her own.
 

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I dont really see the Substance as horror though I guess I can see why technically it is. I don't think of myself as a horror fan as what constitutes horror in my lifetime is usually seeing someones intestines being pulled out or something similar. But I really enjoyed the Substance. I love the set design and cinematography and both actresses were good.
 

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Body horror specifically is about the human body being altered in grotesque ways.

OK, can you tell me what movies are body horror? I don’t know.
I still don’t know what that means or I can’t think of any movie that would be body horror… Do you know any examples, which movies are that genre?
 

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OK, can you tell me what movies are body horror? I don’t know.
I still don’t know what that means or I can’t think of any movie that would be body horror… Do you know any examples, which movies are that genre?
Jennifer’s Body, Under the Skin, Annihilation, Tusk, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Get Out, there’s others but those are the most recognizable recent ones on Google. There’s episodes of both Stargate SG1 and Doctor Who that have body horror elements but those are about as far into the genre as I can get.
 

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Jennifer’s Body, Under the Skin, Annihilation, Tusk, Bodies Bodies Bodies, Get Out, there’s others but those are the most recognizable recent ones on Google. There’s episodes of both Stargate SG1 and Doctor Who that have body horror elements but those are about as far into the genre as I can get.

OK that makes sense why I don’t understand the genre, I have not seen any of those movies. Lol.
 

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I found Part 1 to be a bit too slow moving for my taste, but I didn't think Part 2 was that way at all. There was a lot of action, right from the opening scenes. But then I did find the religious aspects to be interesting, especially the way that Paul came to embrace the destiny that he originally rejected. The evolution of his character from idealistic youth to dark messiah was fascinating to me. I found Chani to be quite shallow and immature by comparison. Although normally I do like Zendaya, I didn't like the way Chani was portrayed and how drastically it differed from the books. :unsure: To each his/her own.

I haven't read the novels, so I'm only basing my thoughts on how the script presented the characters and don't know what they've changed with the storyline or characterizations. I do agree there is a good deal of action in the second "Dune" movie, but I haven't gotten involved emotionally with the characters, so they just come off as big CGI set pieces to me. I know a lot more people liked it than me though, which is why the franchise has done so well at the box office. :lol:
 
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I can’t watch any horror movies and even movies with a great deal of gore. Meaning there are violent films or just hard to stomach films I’ve never seen. From Pan’s Labyrinth to Silence of the Lambs to Get Out, people see them and say how good they are and then turn to me and say, it’s not for you of course.
There isn't violence in The Substance from what I see. No one gets shot, has their neck broken, etc. But the finale could be considered gory. I found it more grotesque than gory but still... I wouldn't want to be eating during it. ;)

I found Part 1 to be a bit too slow moving for my taste, but I didn't think Part 2 was that way at all. There was a lot of action, right from the opening scenes. But then I did find the religious aspects to be interesting, especially the way that Paul came to embrace the destiny that he originally rejected. The evolution of his character from idealistic youth to dark messiah was fascinating to me. I found Chani to be quite shallow and immature by comparison. Although normally I do like Zendaya, I didn't like the way Chani was portrayed and how drastically it differed from the books. :unsure: To each his/her own.
I thought she sucked in the books. Movie Chani has way more agency. And seems to know what is coming and that it's going to be bad while everyone else is blind.
 

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Last night I went to a preview screening of Touch at the American Scandinavian Foundation here in NY. The Icelandic movie is opening in theaters in the US on Friday. It’s a second chance at love story about a man facing the possible end of his life and deciding to try to find the woman he loved who had vanished from his life with no warning 50 years previously. His search takes him from Iceland to London to Tokyo. My main quibble was my inability to understand a lot of the dialogue; there were subtitles, of course, for the Icelandic and Japanese, but a lot of the dialogue was in English and the actors were either too soft spoken or English wasn’t their first language. I’m interested to see what the reviews will be when the film opens.

Touch is ls "streaming only on Peacock" and leaving soon - the final chapter of the story takes place in Hiroshima. I enjoyed this film.
 

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Basically anything by David Cronenberg. Videodrome, for example.
I heard a while ago about a film him made called 'Crimes of the Future'. Starring Viggo Mortesen. About some guy who has his organs played with for experiment.

Not inspired to watch it.

Then of course there was 'Crash'. About mutilated people having sex. Wasn't inspired to watch that, either.
 

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Watched "Juror #2" tonight, reportedly Clint Eastwood's final film before retirement. Highly rated on Rotten Tomatoes (93% I believe), but it didn't work for me. A great cast (though I'd have flipped Nicholas Hoult and Gabriel Basso in their casted roles), but a lot of talent wasted (J.K. Simmons, Chris Messina, and especially Toni Collette) on a plot that maybe looked good on paper, but comes off as contrived and extremely old fashioned in realization.
 

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Different people like different movies lol. I don’t do horror movies either 😝😇
I think I still have ptsd from watching the original Carrie movie from Stephen King .. or Cujo. 😳
The original movie The Omen. 😳😳😳
 

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Just got back home from watching A Complete Unknown. Being that it's still in its opening weekend in the 🇺🇸 and it apparently doesn't open in Europe until mid-January (Wut? Seriously, Searchlight? :huh:), I will put my review in spoiler.

Do you like musician biopics but would prefer one that only covers a part of a career instead of an entire life? Then you'll probably enjoy this!

My overall rating for this film is 9.0/10. The consensus is that Best Actor is going to be between Brody (The Brutalist), Fiennes (Conclave), and Chalamet. Could Chalamet win? I think he really could, but it really depends on how the award voters are thinking. Chalamet does ALL of Dylan's singing and a decent amount of the guitar/harmonica playing. And he kept Bob Dylan captivating, while showing how much of an a--hole he was. I also think that Edward Norton absolutely deserves to be nominated (and even win) for portraying Pete Seeger, but the Best Supporting Actor race look INSANE right now. It's going to be hard for Norton even get nominated.

I'm not a big Bob Dylan fan, but I do enjoy learning about music history. It covers 1961-65, from the time Dylan arrives in NYC to work on his music to when he shows up at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival. The main issue is Dylan's use of electronic guitars in some of his folk music. I won't say what Dylan ended up during his performance at the festival, but he performs the music he wants, Pete Seeger calms down, and Johnny Cash is impressed.

There's also some insights into Dylan's love life. Elle Fanning plays Sylvie, who seems to be a conglomerate of several of Dylan's ex-girlfriends. Dylan also has a relationship with Joan Baez (Monica Barbaro) which he appears to have actual chemistry with. But really, Sylvie and Joan clearly like Bob more than he really liked them.

Throughout the film, there's sprinkling of various historical events (the Cuban Missile Crisis, the March of Washington, JFK's assassination, and Malcolm X's assassination) but I think maybe should have fleshed out more within the film, but the movie is already two hours & twenty minutes and it ended up not feeling long winded. So that probably overall was the correct choice for Mangold.
 
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Has anyone seen ‘All we imagine as light’? It is getting good reviews. It is running in a theatre here. I may go see it, but the first on my list is Conclave because it is about to disappear from theatres anyday.
 

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Just got back home from watching A Complete Unknown. Being that it's still in its opening weekend in the 🇺🇸 and it apparently doesn't open in Europe until mid-January (Wut? Seriously, Searchlight? :huh:), I will put my review in spoiler.

Do you like musician biopics but would prefer one that only covers a part of a career instead of an entire life? Then you'll probably enjoy this!

My overall rating for this film is 9.0/10. The consensus is that Best Actor is going to be between Brody (The Brutalist), Fiennes (Conclave), and Chalamet. Could Chalamet win? I think he really could, but it really depends on how the award voters are thinking. Chalamet does ALL of Dylan's singing and a decent amount of the guitar/harmonica playing. And he kept Bob Dylan captivating, while showing how much of an a--hole he was. I also think that Edward Norton absolutely deserves to be nominated (and even win) for portraying Pete Seeger, but the Best Supporting Actor race look INSANE right now. It's going to be hard for Norton even get nominated.

I'm not a big Bob Dylan fan, but I do enjoy learning about music history. It covers 1961-65, from the time Dylan arrives in NYC to work on his music to when he shows up at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival. The main issue is Dylan's use of electronic guitars in some of his folk music. I won't say what Dylan ended up during his performance at the festival, but he performs the music he wants, Pete Seeger calms down, and Johnny Cash is impressed.

There's also some insights into Dylan's love life. Elle Fanning plays Sylvie, who seems to be a conglomerate of several of Dylan's ex-girlfriends. Dylan also has a relationship with Joan Baez (Monica Barbaro) which he appears to have actual chemistry with. But really, Sylvie and Joan clearly like Bob more than he really liked them.

Throughout the film, there's sprinkling of various historical events (the Cuban Missile Crisis, the March of Washington, JFK's assassination, and Malcolm X's assassination) but I think maybe should have fleshed out more within the film, but the movie is already two hours & twenty minutes and it ended up not feeling long winded. So that probably overall was the correct choice for Mangold.
Sylvia is actually - and Dylan didn’t want them to use her real name - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suze_Rotolo

Yes I prefer watching only certain years covered.
 
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