You may be right but this does not seem a great year to tell. As I recall, at the JGPF the Czecs fell twice - at least in the rhythm dance and maybe even something in the free dance and still were on the podium. I love B&B but I always felt they were in tough with the Czecs and the Koreans for the world title. It also seems like this operation for Piper was not a simple appendectomy and maybe their good preparation made their participation at worlds possible.
Who said it was personal problems? Their physical ailments is what derailed them? Ignoring physical ailments can impact anyone but athletes are more likely to ignore issues as there is always something niggling at them.
Piper herself specifically personal things between Skate Canada and the GP Finland.
I listened to that interview? I must have missed it. I know they had to take extra time off in the summer and early fall due needing a mental rest but not later in the season (except for the health issues).
Oh the reference to personal things happening to them .. ok I read that being quite different to having personal problems.
I don’t think anyone implied the personal issues were between them. If I inadvertently did so, it wasn’t my intent. Her words to me were clear that something personal happened to her.
I saw this idea floated in the dance thread earlier, and apart from my not recalling seeing that criticism before, I don't see how that fits the facts at all.
Was is it was easier for USFS to have 2 American teams because they shared the same coach?
I didn't hear it this way at all. I heard her saying there was personal stuff between the two comps so they didn't overly focus on the skating until they got on the ice and just skated and that being a good thing. Its a few words here and I don't hear anything suggesting this was something more significant than the appendectomy in their season.
These are all things Carol Lane said during the CBC broadcast. Her first comment (I think it was the first) at some point was that the appendectomy was the least of it. Then a bit later she said Piper had personal problems between SC and Espoo, and then a bit later said the bit about female skaters (and male too, but obviously her emphasis was on the female skaters) having to take care of themselves. It all came from Carol Lane.
And missing levels. It's probably not a good thing that if I saw a Level 2 from a team that was touted to be a favorite for winning a World Championship, outside of a major stumble, it didn't seem odd.
they didnt win in 2013. chalie and meryl did.
That was the point.
I would take anything Carole Lane says with a grain of salt. It is all about the win. Also women are disposable to her.
That’s a pretty bold statement, or rather accusation.
Other than the Paul/Vanessa situation, Carol has generally seemed much closer to her female dancers.
nope... various stories. there were very few places to read about figure skating...Too many yrs have passed for me to say what came from where so I only remember the main parts of what she said and did.
That was the first really derogatory situation I read about about Carol & was very bad even though years ago. The rest is stippets here and there...I usually skip her students. B&B i confess I am very attached to their skating in the last year.
Does anyone know what type of appendectomy surgery was performed on Piper? If she had a laparoscopic appendectomy she should have recovered relatively quickly, considering her age and physical fitness level. Having an open appendectomy is much more traumatic and painful. The way some of the posts I've read characterize her post-surgical course, it sounds like she had an open appendectomy. Or she had a much more significant surgical procedure and appendectomy is being used as a "cover". I'm not suggesting that Piper should have back on the ice in a week doing strenuous lifts but something just seems off. G&P are not my favorite ice dance team but it was nice to see them back to competition at Worlds. The Evita program was lovely and I'm glad they made the podium.
My SIL is a competitive triathlete (long course) and had laparoscopic surgery on her abdomen on Feb 3 and she’s not allowed to bike or run yet. She is allowed to swim.
She didn't say that had personal problems but they had to deal with a lot of personal issues. I think that is quite different?
Certainly not what I personally hear coming from that rink. These days she has a great reputation with the skaters and other coaches? I assume you are referring to the historical issues with a certain female skating partner?
Ah, ok. I agree it's different. And I should have listened more closely. Still, I do think whatever she had to deal with was part of the whole package of difficulties. Especially with Carol saying that the appendectomy was the least of it.
These days???? Well she may have found out that certain behavior is not considered acceptable in Canada and watched her P's and Q's a bit. The other items certainly were more subtle.
