2023 Budapest Trophy - Ice Dance RD & FD

[BlueRidge]

Oh I fell in love with INXS (and Michael Hutchence ) at a tender age in the 80's when they were warming up for Men at Work.
Happy for you to have just discovered them Enjoy!

I actually listened to Men at Work back then but I missed INXS

 

[Wyliefan]

More videos are trickling in.

Demougeot/Le Mercier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xFg8JVLoss

Lagouge/Caffa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYvMqQjWD-Y

 

[BlueRidge]

More videos are trickling in.

Demougeot/Le Mercier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xFg8JVLoss

Yes! I like that! (big shock )

That's a step up from the performance at Masters.

 

[Dobre]

The red costume has to go. I know Lauriault likes the pants look, and that's fine; but this cut is atrocious. It makes her bottom look big (and we know she's a tiny thing), plus when you do red in a pant suit, they look like long johns.

Also, I would like to recommend some hydroblading in our Danger Zone RDs.

(Thank you for reading this incredibly insightful technical analysis of the RD portion of this event).

 

[Sylvia]

The Free Dance is the 3rd & final CS event on Sunday. Time schedule by team (18:00-20:28 local/12 noon-2:28 pm Eastern time): https://hunskate.hu/external/mukorc...----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

FD starting order/results: https://hunskate.hu/external/mukorcsolya/2023_2024/Budtrophy/SEG008.htm

 

[Wyliefan]

Come back from lunch to find an Exogenesis FD in progress. Make. It. Stop.

 

[Karen-W]

Come back from lunch to find an Exogenesis FD in progress. Make. It. Stop.

That in and of itself is a solid reason to have not paid for the stream this week.

 

[Wyliefan]

Bronsard/Richmond starting. Exogenesis. Again.

 

[Wyliefan]

164.14 for Lagouge/Caffa, into 1st. He's being a bit hyper in the K&C.

 

[Wyliefan]

Val/Kazimov into 1st with a strong skate. Last group warming up.

 

[Wyliefan]

Wolf/Tsar into 1st with a new SB. A little unpolished, I thought (and I don't remember the choreography being quite this busy before), but their lines and synchronicity were very good.

 

[tony]

Scores are on the very high side today. Heads will explode when they see the final results, I'm just going to guess it now. And of course, the scores will only have been inflated for one team

 

[Wyliefan]

D/LeM, first half Debussy, second half something contemporary. Pretty good skate, just a bit rough in spots. Probably would have been smoother if they'd had the chance to do their trial run at Masters. But they're into 1st.

 

[Wyliefan]

Les Gacs with their Corpse Bride program! Very cool opening move where she rides around on his foot. She went all out with the makeup, and he's got an apron or tails or something. I hope she doesn't get tangled up in them.

 

[Wyliefan]

That's a very striking program. For a team that once struggled to put a coherent FD together, they have really stepped up their game. Into 1st with 188.32.

Here comes the swan with the bubble braid ...

 

[Karen-W]

That's a very striking program. For a team that once struggled to put a coherent FD together, they have really stepped up their game. Into 1st with 188.32.

Here comes the swan with the bubble braid ...

Maybe she can grace us with a fall on the 1st twizzle today, lol.

 

[Wyliefan]

D/S clean as far as elements go, but looking sloppy and frantic. It will score in the stratosphere and @tony will be very happy.

 

[Marta24]

Barely above the Canadians. Interesting.

 

[tony]

D/S clean as far as elements go, but looking sloppy and frantic. It will score in the stratosphere and @tony will be very happy.

Nah, just can't wait to read the dissertations across FSU about how they are the sole team benefitting from being overscored when almost every team in the last groups here received a personal best in the free dance, and some by a big margin

If only we had someone to start proclaiming World bronze for them.

 

[Frau Muller]

This is NOT “ballet”… but D/S win!

The young Czechs (Mrazeks) have a better Black Swan FD, IMO.

 

[kwanfan1818]

Scores are on the very high side today. Heads will explode when they see the final results, I'm just going to guess it now. And of course, the scores will only have been inflated for one team

If I were trying to fix an event, I’d make sure everyone’s scores were as high as they could be plausibly, because it’s win-win for all of the participants, especially those that need to get minimums and for whom it’s an advantage to renew them.

Davis/Smolkin wouldn’t be a surprise to beat everyone in this field, and they barely beat Les Gacs in the FD.

 

[Karen-W]

I'm just tired of the assumptions that DavSmo are somehow going to wind up with some random GP assignment because of the CS win. Dance is the HARDEST discipline to pick up an assignment in and there are too many teams that belong to host feds waiting for a 2nd assignment. None of those teams are getting burned in favor of DavSmo who will place top 5, maybe medal, at Euros and are on track for top 10 at Worlds. They don't NEED a GP and there's no reason to give them one.

 

[Wyliefan]

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1	Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKIN	GEO	191.84	1	1
2	Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain le GAC	CAN	188.32	2	2
3	Loicia DEMOUGEOT / Theo le MERCIER	FRA	179.68	3	3
4	Jennifer JANSE van RENSBURG / Benjamin STEFFAN	GER	176.42	4	4
5	Katarina WOLFKOSTIN / Dimitry TSAREVSKI	USA	172.88	5	5
6	Sofia VAL / Asaf KAZIMOV	ESP	168.34	6	6
7	Natacha LAGOUGE / Arnaud CAFFA	FRA	164.14	7	7
8	Milla Ruud REITAN / Nikolaj MAJOROV	SWE	154.79	10	9
9	Mariia IGNATEVA / Danijil Leonyidovics SZEMKO	HUN	152.96	11	8
10	Mariia NOSOVITSKAYA / Mikhail NOSOVITSKIY	ISR	152.74	8	10
11	Emmy BRONSARD / Jacob RICHMOND	CAN	150.51	9	11
12	Shang SHI / Nan WU	CHN	144.56	12	12
13	Lucy HANCOCK / Ilias FOURATI	HUN	137.27	14	13
14	Shira ICHILOV / Dmytriy KRAVCHENKO	ISR	135.65	13	15
15	Emese CSISZER / Mark SHAPIRO	HUN	132.36	16	14
16	Anastasia POLIBINA / Pavel GOLOVISHNIKOV	POL	128.85	15	17
17	Giorgia GALIMBERTI / Matteo Libasse MANDELLI	ITA	127.36	17	16

Free dance scores:

Pl.	Name	Nation	TSS =	TES +		PCS +	CO	PR	SK	Ded. -	StN.
1​	Diana DAVIS / Gleb SMOLKIN	GEO	116.63​	65.93​		50.70​	8.55​	8.50​	8.30​	0.00​	#17​
2​	Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain le GAC	CAN	116.40​	66.50​		49.90​	8.55​	8.35​	8.05​	0.00​	#16​
3​	Loicia DEMOUGEOT / Theo le MERCIER	FRA	110.31​	62.51​		47.80​	8.15​	8.00​	7.75​	0.00​	#15​
4​	Jennifer JANSE van RENSBURG / Benjamin STEFFAN	GER	107.47​	61.07​		46.40​	7.80​	7.80​	7.60​	0.00​	#14​
5​	Katarina WOLFKOSTIN / Dimitry TSAREVSKI	USA	103.96​	58.76​		45.20​	7.70​	7.55​	7.35​	0.00​	#13​
6​	Sofia VAL / Asaf KAZIMOV	ESP	102.83​	59.13​		43.70​	7.25​	7.45​	7.15​	0.00​	#12​
7​	Natacha LAGOUGE / Arnaud CAFFA	FRA	100.19​	56.79​		43.40​	7.25​	7.40​	7.05​	0.00​	#11​
8​	Mariia IGNATEVA / Danijil Leonyidovics SZEMKO	HUN	95.51​	54.11​		41.40​	6.85​	7.00​	6.85​	0.00​	#7​
9​	Milla Ruud REITAN / Nikolaj MAJOROV	SWE	94.10​	54.30​		39.80​	6.70​	6.50​	6.70​	0.00​	#8​
10​	Mariia NOSOVITSKAYA / Mikhail NOSOVITSKIY	ISR	90.31​	49.91​		40.40​	6.60​	6.85​	6.75​	0.00​	#10​
11​	Emmy BRONSARD / Jacob RICHMOND	CAN	89.74​	50.04​		39.70​	6.60​	6.55​	6.70​	0.00​	#9​
12​	Shang SHI / Nan WU	CHN	88.42​	51.42​		38.00​	6.30​	6.35​	6.35​	1.00​	#6​
13​	Lucy HANCOCK / Ilias FOURATI	HUN	84.23​	48.93​		35.30​	5.80​	5.95​	5.90​	0.00​	#4​
14​	Emese CSISZER / Mark SHAPIRO	HUN	80.66​	47.66​		33.00​	5.60​	5.35​	5.55​	0.00​	#2​
15​	Shira ICHILOV / Dmytriy KRAVCHENKO	ISR	79.95​	43.45​		36.50​	6.25​	6.15​	5.85​	0.00​	#5​
16​	Giorgia GALIMBERTI / Matteo Libasse MANDELLI	ITA	76.65​	45.05​		31.60​	5.35​	5.25​	5.20​	0.00​	#1​
17​	Anastasia POLIBINA / Pavel GOLOVISHNIKOV	POL	76.05​	42.85​		33.20​	5.80​	5.25​	5.55​	0.00​	#3​

 

[Sylvia]

FD protocols: https://hunskate.hu/external/mukorc...------FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

 

[Rukia]

Scores are on the very high side today. Heads will explode when they see the final results, I'm just going to guess it now. And of course, the scores will only have been inflated for one team

The thing about ice dance scores, and I'm pretty sure this is in a manual somewhere, is that my favorites should be much higher and the people I don't like should be much lower.

Although I haven't seen D/S today, but really their skating skills truly looked degraded at the last competition. I will maintain they were over scored there because it was not great (and in fact worse than they had been in the past where I thought they were given kind of ok scores).

 

[barbarafan]

This is NOT “ballet”… but D/S win!

The young Czechs (Mrazeks) have a better Black Swan FD, IMO.

did they score better?

 

[Carina]

Happy for my Swedish couple, think they
managed to get minium TES for both Euros and Worlds

 

[PRlady]

Does anyone know how W/T’s scores stack up with comparable US couples? Not that it means much.

 

[Wyliefan]

Does anyone know how W/T’s scores stack up with comparable US couples? Not that it means much.

Their score today (a new PB) is just below what the Browns got at Finlandia.

 

[Frau Muller]

did they score better?

No. Mrazeks FD scored 110.12 at Nebelhorn, I believe…D/S FD 116.63 today……but I enjoyed the Czechs’ overall balletic look and costumes. D/S’ use of the deep low “Mr Frick glide” (Trusova style) was a stylistic turn off, for starters.