Worlds 2024 Women FS: ‘Where Have All The Knitters Gone?’

[Rukia]

Anyone with an A in their name

it's andrew torgashev's time to shine no i don't care that this is about the women

 

[overedge]

Darn right we do!! We also know how to give standing ovations too. It's what we DO.

We can also

 

[Colonel Green]

Levito eventually realized she was holding the flag backwards.

 

[TAHbKA]

thanks for the PBP, @skatingguy !

 

[skatingguy]

I thought the invalid 3F was an input error. It was in fact a double per the protocol.

I thought she doubled it, but then it came up triple so I went with what the scores said. I also rechecked the Planned Program Content sheet, and it also has 3 triple flips so I didn't rewatch the element. Thanks.

 

[quartz]

Isabeau has a face that is pretty now, but will be absolutely stunning in ten years.

 

[overedge]

it's andrew torgashev's time to shine no i don't care that this is about the women

Anthony Paradis would like a word.

 

[Coco]

I thought the invalid 3F was an input error. It was in fact a double per the protocol.

They thought it was the short program!!

 

[Sarah]

I’m not sure who looks happier: Kaori or Isabeau!

 

[Karen-W]

Anyone with an A in their name

LOL - IsAbeAu, LindsAy, SArAh, StArr. Pretty much eliminates just Elyce from consideration, lol.

 

[Wyliefan]

Levito eventually realized she was holding the flag backwards.

I think some of Kaori's goofiness rubbed off on her.

 

[tony]

If the rest of the element is a +3 or +4 they can give a -1. It is in the guidelines.

[Sorry editing a bit because I think maybe you said they can give a +1 at first and then edited? If not, my mistake.]

One of the requirements to get above a +3 to begin with is that the jump has to have a good take off and landing. Doing the wrong take off is not only not fulfilling that, but it should dock a criteria right there as it is.

Wrong edge 'e' is -2 to -4. You can't give a triple flip, intended to be a triple Lutz any kind of credibility as an actual jump. Should be -3 to -4 after all is done because there is zero attempt at trying a Lutz.

And no, it never changes from competition to competition. She does the same thing time and time again. To solve the problem, it should just be called a 0. If someone does a toe, Sal, or loop for the third time, they get a 0, lose the element block, and *. With Kaori's three flips, we give leeway because she 'meant' to do a Lutz... meant being very sarcastic here.

 

[Matryeshka]

Kaori hunting down a flag for Isabeau like she had to hunt down a flag for Loena last year

This is what girl bosses do. They win and hunt for flags. I love the reactions of these three--Kaori is moved, Isabeau is effervescent, and Kim is still confused.

 

[Carolla5501]

awww Kaori getting the us flag for Isabeau is adorable

And it says an awful lot about her doesn’t it? It’s her moment of glory and she’s making sure that her competitors enjoy it too. That’s sportsmanship

 

[airgelaal]

As I see it, there are the following problems with the Korean girls:

1. They are incredibly dull
2. They are incredibly similar
3. They skate to the same program

Beautiful SP, this LP got me to reconsider the wisdom of coming to Montreal at all.

Their biggest problem is various domestic qualifying competitions

 

[overedge]

It's been a good day, people, see you all tomorrow morning!

 

[Garden Kitty]

Congrats to the podium. Kaori just comes across as such a fun, personable skater. Love her personality as well as her skating.
Congrats to Isabeau for coming back after what had to be a disappointing and stressful Nationals. I hope this placement will help her confidence. The tv broadcast had an interview with her and she was saying how before she went out tonight she was thinking she couldn't do it, but she was so happy she skated well. And congrats to Chaeyeon on her medal. Keeps the competition interesting within South Korea.

And I'm glad both Isabeau and Amber combined to get three spots for Boston. I'm sure skating at a home Worlds is a special opportunity for a skater, so it's nice to have the extra spot.

 

[thvu]

If the rest of the element is a +3 or +4 they can give a -1. It is in the guidelines.

They can technically give it a 0 too. It's still overly generous given what was put out there. Her lutz should have gotten a full -4 GOE reduction. e caps the GOE at +2 starting point. -2 to -4 is the allowable range of reduction for an e call. It was really exceptionally obvious and egregious.

 

[zigzig]

Exciting competition - partly cuz I love big movement in standings. THRILLED FOR THE MEDALISTS. I always thought Chaeyeon would be a dark horse and now I feel vindicated.

Kaori - thrilled for her and frankly this is one of the best performances of this CRAP program I've ever seen her do. I can't believe there's a big music change just sandwiched in the middle of a step sequence. Happy for her but cannot WAIT to see the back of this $hit program.

Levito - THRILLED for her and grateful she contributed to 3 spots for women.

Kim - love her and glad she got bronze.

Loena - skating after Kaori and Isabeau knocked the wind out of her sails. Her jumps seemed to have gotten tighter over the past season. This is another program I'm glad to see the back of.

Repond - I find her skating super awkward but she really SOLD that program!

Lee - meh

Chiba - love her but needs more expression and personality in her skating and a less generic style. Her short program is better.

Yoshida - her jumps get sloppy. But I like her.

Kaiser - seems really tan.

Glenn - Glenn being Glenn.

Kurakova - loved her reaction at the end.

Young You - bleh

Gubanova - good redemption from the short but still can't get into her skating.

Mikutina - her jumps were weirdly reminding me of Mirai Nagasu.

Pinzarrone - meh

Petrokina - get such late 90s/early 2000 mens skating vibe from her/this program. Not a good thing.

 

[airgelaal]

Don't forget that Women are still the youngest discipline. Many skaters are either still in school or have recently graduated. It is very difficult to be successful in both. You have to choose. I hope the new age rule will improve the situation.

 

[Matryeshka]

I love you @tony for always trying to fight the good fight and educate us--this is not sarcasm, this is truly meant--but your logic and devil-math and rules have no place here. Ladies (and dance) threads are about insane fandom, sparkles, and Questionable Choices (skaters and FSUers).

You will not teach the heathens; we are too far gone. We do not want to listen to reason and be enlightened. We want to believe Amber Glenn will one day put it together and no one deserves edge calls (unless we don't like them) and skating skills are based purely on how much we like the music.

 

[Yazmeen]

Can I just point out that the three-time world champion is built like a normal person and not like a skinny little tree.

Another reason why I love her.

Being a car dealer's daughter, I named all my cars over the past 24 years for my favorite skaters. My 2000 silver BMW3 was "Wing" for Michelle Kwan. My 2006 C-Class was a bit temperamental, so she was "Sasha" for Cohen. The 2013 C-Class was "Kati" (hey, German car, finally figured Katarina deserved a designation).

Last year, our oldies were aging, and my husband wanted an EV, so we agreed he could have the "fun car" for once and I went for the nice, sensible AWD ICE vehicle (Subaru Crosstrek Sport, which I love). I decided to be an old goat, so I named her "Peggy" after the divine Miss Fleming. But DH pointed out that shouldn't a Japanese car also have a Japanese name? Good idea; I picked my favorite Japanese skater. So she is now my beloved Peggy Kaori - "Peggy K" for short. And I'm sure she's smiling tonight in our garage.

Yeah, I'm a weirdo motorhead, what can I say...

 

[Vagabond]

Is there a more delightful soul in figure skating than Kaori?

When Kaori Sakamoto smiles, the whole world smiles with her.

 

[CantALoop]

Isabeau has a face that is pretty now, but will be absolutely stunning in ten years.

Would someone at USFSA please get her a gay glam squad to give her a makeover and do her prettiness justice instead of her current mumsy look

 

[Yazmeen]

This is what girl bosses do. They win and hunt for flags. I love the reactions of these three--Kaori is moved, Isabeau is effervescent, and Kim is still confused.

Has Kim realized she has a medal yet????

 

[Yazmeen]

Would someone at USFSA please get her a gay glam squad to give her a makeover and do her prettiness justice instead of her current mumsy look

Would a stylist get her away from her mother and get rid of the fussy dresses and the bleeping GLOVES already????

 

[MacMadame]

I think her growth spurts were the problem more then her being a headcase. I will always trust Isabeau more then Amber.

This is realty but uberring is not about reality.

 

[Yazmeen]

OOps, double post, I'm tired, sorry.

 

[Simone411]

I'm calling it a night, and thank you, Canada, for doing such an amazing job! I'm not sure how it was done or what you call it, but I loved the pics of each skater in the huge background and in the KNC.

 

[NinjaTurtles]

[Sorry editing a bit because I think maybe you said they can give a +1 at first and then edited? If not, my mistake.]

One of the requirements to get above a +3 to begin with is that the jump has to have a good take off and landing. Doing the wrong take off is not only not fulfilling that, but it should dock a criteria right there as it is.

Wrong edge 'e' is -2 to -4. You can't give a triple flip, intended to be a triple Lutz any kind of credibility as an actual jump. Should be -3 to -4 after all is done because there is zero attempt at trying a Lutz.

And no, it never changes from competition to competition. She does the same thing time and time again. To solve the problem, it should just be called a 0. If someone does a toe, Sal, or loop for the third time, they get a 0, lose the element block, and *. With Kaori's three flips, we give leeway because she 'meant' to do a Lutz... meant being very sarcastic here.

I know I routinely say this, but it kills me that they don’t do even the most minute amount of software development and set controls wherein GOE options are not possible or GOE outside the rules is capped to the max allowable or otherwise imputed. It’s not hard. It’s lazy.