Terrible idea. Senior newbie carrying the team event and expected to challenge for individual medal. Not possible.
The US would be stupid to sub in for women when both the dance and men have two top 3-5 skaters/teams who will earn more points than any woman we put into the team event. Whichever woman is put in for the team event will NOT be expected to carry the US team over the goalposts in the team event. And, I think everyone in the USFS is realistic about the medal chances of ANY of our women in the individual event.
I totally agree with every word said. I have had the privilege of watching her skate live. She is one of the most gifted and beautiful skaters I have seen.
I think Karen is a breathtaking skater. I have seen her live, and she is just exquisite.
I think Isabeau can have a great future in skating. She has some things to fix, but who doesn't at 14.
Same. Both of those teams really deserve an Olympic medal and it will be a shame if they don't get their shot in the team event and then wind up out-politicked in the individual dance event.
The US loves singles skaters and particularly the women. It would be fair to put in the two ice dance teams but most likely they will put in the women.
But isn’t a skater’s success or lack thereof, strongly considered in decisions re: placement on the Olympic team?She was 4th at Worlds and she's had other bad skates in her life, particularly in the Grand Prix. Yes, many of the jumps were tight and underrotated, but the final two falls with << were the score killers. Early-season performances aren't indicative of anything with her, we should all know this by now
I would be shocked if H/D and C/B didn't split up the events. Why would a woman who is not Alysa Liu be considered? The least damage an extra woman single skater could cause is in the SP, but I'd think Alysa would want another chance to hit her 3axel in the SP before the singles competition. Anyway, the dance teams have earned their places on the team. Split them up and Nathan/Vincent. Let Kneirim/Frazier and Alysa hold their own. This shouldn't even be debatable, IMO.
I originally agreed that it would be better not to have Alysa skate both short and long in the team event because she is a first year senior competing at the Olympics and thought it would take some weight off her shoulders since she still would have to skate in the regular ladies event, if Bradie is 'back', she would be ideal (based on her history) to split SP and LP with Alysa. However, it's a moot point, because I had forgotten about the 2 discipline limit on splitting programs and obviously dance and men should take precedence.
Can’t sass be artistic? Is artistic only balletic? (No - there are many ways to express the music with artistry ).
Was it guaranteed that they’d finish in the same spot? See FD placement at 2018 individual ice dance competition, 2017 Worlds, and a few other competitions before and since.
Currently, looking at RD scores alone, C/B have a higher SB in that segment than H/D, and that was with them missing levels at both Finlandia and SkAm. Right now, both teams would, theoretically, finish behind GilPoi in the RD but I think that C/B have the potential to beat GilPoi (as they did at Worlds last year, FWIW) in the RD.
It isn't just USFS' choice though, the skaters have input too. I assume Nathan will get first choice on what he wants to do, then whoever the #1 dance is. I think if the dance teams say they want to split, the USFS will take that seriously.
It would be very sweet if C/B and H/D asked to split, knowing that they're training partners and good friends, and this way they both get to win a well-deserved Olympic medal.
The jumps she crashed and burned on and lost the most points for were basic stand-alone triples. ‘Watering down’ a skate, whether technically or by taking bits of choreography out to save energy, isn’t going to get past any roadblock of not rotating the triples fully IMO. She just needs to have a better day altogether and hope for the best with her technique.LOL, but the two Madisons are US ladies
But seriously, back to American women who compete in the women's division...I wonder if Karen would or should consider watering down for her next GP so that she could have a clean skate.
Unfortunately, Karen is at the mercy of whoever is the technical caller. If she doesn't get any UR calls with a lax technical specialist, she places 4th at Worlds behind only the Russian ladies. With a specialist who pays attention, she places 10th at Skate Canada just ahead of the Canadian ladies. It's bizarre.
I think sometimes her jumps are better than other times. Even I saw her fatigue towards the end of her Skate Canada skate and her jumps there didn't have that same snap towards the end as she can have. I think her high placement at Worlds 2021 made people forget that she did get calls there; she got two qs, a !, and a >. Kind of reminds me of 2016 Worlds where Ashley's silver medal made people forget she got two >s and a ! for her freeskate. So a skater like Karen needs to be on and needs to really make sure her jumps have as much snap and rotation as possible. She'll always be subject to some calls but if she gets tired with rotation like she was at Skate Canada, boom! However, like Ashley, when Karen is electric and most of her jumps are on, she can get high scores still and be competitive for a top 5 placement. It's all within her power to make sure she makes it all the way around.
This! And we really shouldn't be comparing her skate at Worlds with her skate at Skate Canada, as if the only difference between the two was the technical caller.
No attack from me; I agree with you.
