U.S. Women [#4]: How Dare You

[Sylvia]

Props to Sherry Zhang who goes into her jumps without looking like a deer in the headlights! She skates with attack and verve for a 14 year old. Her loop and lutz were gorgeous!

Sherry has the highest NQS total score (186.59 at Skate St. Moritz earlier this month) of the U.S. Junior women right now -- I found a copy of her FS (72.82 TES + 53.13 PCS = 125.95 / 182.44 total) from Glacier Falls in late July: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWYgxwALHuk
She landed all of her jumps in Anaheim, CA -- 3Lo, 3Lz+2T, 3T off balance landing, 3Lz, 3F+2A+2A, 3F+2T & 3S (similar layout as in her JGP in Budapest earlier today except for leaving off a 2T after her flip, so only 2 combos in Budapest).

 

[Willin]

Not that we're aware of.

I think Lindsay has the goods to beat her domestically, though we have yet to see how she'll score against a tougher international panel since she WD from ACI. Guess we'll find out about Bradie if she shows up at Budapest Trophy in a few weeks. I don't think Starr has the tech to catch Isabeau. Who else is there?

I think Lindsay will beat Isabeau this season. USFS just heavily favors Isabeau for whatever reason.

 

[Frau Muller]

I think Lindsay will beat Isabeau this season. USFS just heavily favors Isabeau for whatever reason.

My only concern with Lindsay is that her growth (bodice). Maybe she’s figured a way to overcome that.

 

[Sylvia]

Fan Zone piece on Lindsay for Hispanic Heritage Month (her mother emigrated from the Dominican Republic):

Lindsay Thorngren: Proud to Be Dominican - U.S. Figure Skating Fan Zone

Lindsay Thorngren is only two years older now than her mother Elizabeth was when she left the Dominican Republic for the United States at the age of 15. The mother

usfigureskatingfanzone.com

 

[Sylvia]

So who do people think should join Elyce Lin-Gracey in Yerevan? Here's the list of alternates:

34	Annika CHAO (placeholder; 164.04 5th in THA; 172.71 NQS Jr. #5)	USA	30
35	Elyce LIN-GRACEY (179.16 4th in TUR; 178.98 NQS Sr. #4)	USA	30
	Sarah EVERHARDT (JGP POL next week; 182.80 NQS Sr. #3)	USA	30	S
	Hannah HERRERA (176.20 NQS Sr. #6)	USA	30	S
	Logan HIGASE-CHEN (179.48 won Broadmoor NQS Jr. today, now #3)	USA	30	S
	Jiaying Ellyse JOHNSON (166.37 NQS Jr. #7)	USA	30	S
	Mia KALIN (159.93 8th in JPN; NQS Sr. #8)	USA	30	S
	Teryn KIM (151.55 10th at US Jr. Team Cup/3rd in FS; 159.44 NQS Jr. #8)	USA	30	S
	Josephine LEE [151.40 8th at JGP AUT; 165.19 2nd at Broadmoor NQS Sr. today)	USA	30	S
	Soho LEE (162.14 5th at US Jr. Team Cup; WD from JGP HUN)	USA	30	S
	Cleo PARK (180.15 NQS Jr. #2)	USA	30	S
	Katie SHEN (won Cranberry Cup Int'l Jr. 163.52)	USA	30	S
	Sherry ZHANG (170.65 5th at JGP HUN; 186.59 NQS #1)	USA	30	S

Edited to add stats for everyone

 

[Karen-W]

So who do people think should join Elyce Lin-Gracey in Yerevan? Here's the list of alternates:

34	Annika CHAO (placeholder)	USA	30
35	Elyce LIN-GRACEY	USA	30
	Sarah EVERHARDT	USA	30	S
	Hannah HERRERA	USA	30	S
	Logan HIGASE-CHEN	USA	30	S
	Jiaying Ellyse JOHNSON	USA	30	S
	Mia KALIN	USA	30	S
	Teryn KIM	USA	30	S
	Josephine LEE	USA	30	S
	Soho LEE	USA	30	S
	Cleo PARK	USA	30	S
	Katie SHEN	USA	30	S
	Sherry ZHANG	USA	30	S

Sherry Zhang - she has the 2nd highest score of the US women on the JGP (would have won silver in Linz).

 

[Evgeniafan]

So who do people think should join Elyce Lin-Gracey in Yerevan? Here's the list of alternates:

34	Annika CHAO (placeholder; 164.04 5th in THA; 172.71 NQS #5)	USA	30
35	Elyce LIN-GRACEY	USA	30
	Sarah EVERHARDT (POL next week; 182.80 NQS Sr. #3)	USA	30	S
	Hannah HERRERA (176.20 NQS Sr. #6)	USA	30	S
	Logan HIGASE-CHEN (179.48 at Broadmoor NQS today, now #3)	USA	30	S
	Jiaying Ellyse JOHNSON (166.37 NQS #7)	USA	30	S
	Mia KALIN (159.93 8th in JPN; NQS Sr. #8)	USA	30	S
	Teryn KIM	USA	30	S
	Josephine LEE	USA	30	S
	Soho LEE	USA	30	S
	Cleo PARK (180.15 NQS #2)	USA	30	S
	Katie SHEN (won Cranberry Cup Jr. 163.52)	USA	30	S
	Sherry ZHANG (170.65 5th in HUN; 186.59 NQS #1)	USA	30	S

I want to pick 4. Teryn because I think she has potential, Sherry because she could place top 5 again, Mia because she could place top 5, and Sarah could place top 5. So in essence I can't decide.

 

[Rukia]

So who have we not seen skate this season so far that you're looking most forward to? I want more info on Amber's programs. Do we have more dramatique ballads to look forward to??

 

[sk9tingfan]

sk9tingfan​

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Isabeau Levito and Lucas Broussard are co-listing each other as coaches on their ISU profiles! Really cute! I sense extreme like...

Figure Skating Memes on Instagram: "The updated bios for @isabeau.levito and @lucasd.b_ following Nebelhorn trophy #figureskating #patinacaoartistica #patinageartistique #pattinaggioartistico #eiskunstlauf #isu #nebelhorntrophy2023 #teamusa #teamle​

472 likes, 6 comments - figureskatingmemes_ on September 24, 2023: "The updated bios for @isabeau.levito and @lucasd.b_ following Nebelhorn trophy #figureskating #..."

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[Karen-W]

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[HEADING=3]sk9tingfan​

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Messages6,658
Isabeau Levito and Lucas Broussard are co-listing each other as coaches on their ISU profiles! Really cute! I sense extreme like...

Figure Skating Memes on Instagram: "The updated bios for @isabeau.levito and @lucasd.b_ following Nebelhorn trophy #figureskating #patinacaoartistica #patinageartistique #pattinaggioartistico #eiskunstlauf #isu #nebelhorntrophy2023 #teamusa #teamle​

472 likes, 6 comments - figureskatingmemes_ on September 24, 2023: "The updated bios for @isabeau.levito and @lucasd.b_ following Nebelhorn trophy #figureskating #..."

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False -

No, they aren't. Someone's having fun with PaintShop Pro.

http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00111287.htm

http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00111284.htm

 

[Rukia]

rip we almost had it all

 

[Karen-W]

rip we almost had it all

Can we fan-wank for Isabeau & Lucas and Lindsay & Jacob? We've already got the cuteness that is Starr & Danil. We need more, lol.

 

[PRlady]

Can we fan-wank for Isabeau & Lucas and Lindsay & Jacob? We've already got the cuteness that is Starr & Danil. We need more, lol.

Much as I love matchmaking myself (direct descendant of Yenta, I believe) let’s go easy on the underage romance here. Skaters read here (god forbid, given the nonsense above) and teenagers don’t need any more reason to be embarrassed or self-conscious.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

So who do people think should join Elyce Lin-Gracey in Yerevan? Here's the list of alternates:

34	Annika CHAO (placeholder; 164.04 5th in THA; 172.71 NQS Jr. #5)	USA	30
35	Elyce LIN-GRACEY (179.16 4th in TUR; 178.98 NQS Sr. #4)	USA	30
	Sarah EVERHARDT (JGP POL next week; 182.80 NQS Sr. #3)	USA	30	S
	Hannah HERRERA (176.20 NQS Sr. #6)	USA	30	S
	Logan HIGASE-CHEN (179.48 won Broadmoor NQS Jr. today, now #3)	USA	30	S
	Jiaying Ellyse JOHNSON (166.37 NQS Jr. #7)	USA	30	S
	Mia KALIN (159.93 8th in JPN; NQS Sr. #8)	USA	30	S
	Teryn KIM (151.55 10th at US Jr. Team Cup/3rd in FS; 159.44 NQS Jr. #8)	USA	30	S
	Josephine LEE [151.40 8th at JGP AUT; 165.19 2nd at Broadmoor NQS Sr. today)	USA	30	S
	Soho LEE (162.14 5th at US Jr. Team Cup; WD from JGP HUN)	USA	30	S
	Cleo PARK (180.15 NQS Jr. #2)	USA	30	S
	Katie SHEN (won Cranberry Cup Int'l Jr. 163.52)	USA	30	S
	Sherry ZHANG (170.65 5th at JGP HUN; 186.59 NQS #1)	USA	30	S

Edited to add stats for everyone

Haven`t seen Sarah in Gdansk but as of today I would pick Lin-Gracey though I like Zhang too. Neither girl skates scared and they appear to want to win.

 

[Frau Muller]

So who do people think should join Elyce Lin-Gracey in Yerevan? Here's the list of alternates:

34	Annika CHAO (placeholder; 164.04 5th in THA; 172.71 NQS Jr. #5)	USA	30
35	Elyce LIN-GRACEY (179.16 4th in TUR; 178.98 NQS Sr. #4)	USA	30
	Sarah EVERHARDT (JGP POL next week; 182.80 NQS Sr. #3)	USA	30	S
	Hannah HERRERA (176.20 NQS Sr. #6)	USA	30	S
	Logan HIGASE-CHEN (179.48 won Broadmoor NQS Jr. today, now #3)	USA	30	S
	Jiaying Ellyse JOHNSON (166.37 NQS Jr. #7)	USA	30	S
	Mia KALIN (159.93 8th in JPN; NQS Sr. #8)	USA	30	S
	Teryn KIM (151.55 10th at US Jr. Team Cup/3rd in FS; 159.44 NQS Jr. #8)	USA	30	S
	Josephine LEE [151.40 8th at JGP AUT; 165.19 2nd at Broadmoor NQS Sr. today)	USA	30	S
	Soho LEE (162.14 5th at US Jr. Team Cup; WD from JGP HUN)	USA	30	S
	Cleo PARK (180.15 NQS Jr. #2)	USA	30	S
	Katie SHEN (won Cranberry Cup Int'l Jr. 163.52)	USA	30	S
	Sherry ZHANG (170.65 5th at JGP HUN; 186.59 NQS #1)	USA	30	S

Edited to add stats for everyone

Have we answered Sylvia’s question? Maybe Sherry Zhang is now our strongest Jr female, after Budapest? I’m not sure that Josephine’s showing at the Broadmoor NQS Senior division yesterday was enough…won the LP but true-Senior-aged Wren won overall. At this stage, no US jr-aged woman will make the Jr GP final. US is looking at strongest future in Dance, overall.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Haven`t seen Sarah in Gdansk but as of today I would pick Lin-Gracey though I like Zhang too. Neither girl skates scared and they appear to want to win.

Elyse Lin-Gracey is already assigned. Annika Chao is a placeholder, so the question is who should take the second spot.

 

[Frau Muller]

Sarah is assigned for this penultimate week in Gdansk. @Sylvia ’s Q was about the last US women’s spot in the final event in Yerevan. Lin-Gracey was initially assigned… and my main choice of Annika Chao got the final US spot:

https://results.isu.org/events/jgparm2023_JuniorWomen.htm

Hoorah! May the cameras capture both of her programs “live” in Yerevan (unlike Bangkok)!

 

[Gris]

Link

Bradie replaced Lindsay at Shanghai Trophy.

 

[SHARPIE]

Several posts have been deleted here, can we just keep the thread on it‘s meaningful tangent now? Please report anything I missed as well.

 

[Sylvia]

Sarah is assigned for this penultimate week in Gdansk. @Sylvia ’s Q was about the last US women’s spot in the final event in Yerevan. Lin-Gracey was initially assigned… and my main choice of Annika Chao got the final US spot:

Annika is the placeholder for the 2nd spot - USFS has not yet confirmed the name of the 2nd woman for Yerevan on their International Assignments page (still listed as "TBD" as of now).

Bradie replaced Lindsay at Shanghai Trophy.

I hope Lindsay is okay and will be ready to compete in her first GP at Skate Canada.

 

[Frau Muller]

Annika is the placeholder for the 2nd spot - USFS has not yet confirmed the name of the 2nd woman for Yerevan on their International Assignments page (still listed as "TBD" as of now).

No longer an “S” next to her name.
Chao is entrant 34 here:

https://results.isu.org/events/jgparm2023_JuniorWomen.htm

 

[Karen-W]

No longer an “S” next to her name.

On the ISU entries page, she has never had an "S" next to her name - hence why she is the "Placeholder". The USFS Int'l Assignments page still lists only Lin-Gracey and TBD.

 

[Sylvia]

U.S. skaters have always been told that they (or their coach) will be contacted directly if they are assigned to a second JGP and not to go by what's listed on the ISU website.

Have we answered Sylvia’s question? Maybe Sherry Zhang is now our strongest Jr female, after Budapest?

Sherry is my pick.

 

[Stephanie]

I’d like to see Cleo Park get the opportunity. She scored 180 at Skate St Moritz, which is the highest score for someone not already assigned to a JGP, not to mention higher than some of the girls who did get assignments (Kalin, Josephine Lee, etc.)

 

[Sylvia]

^^^ I think Cleo has improved a lot this summer so I would be fine with that, too. I agree with what @emilieh posted in the U.S. Club & NQS competitions thread in Kiss & Cry after watching the 3 of them skate at Skate St. Moritz a couple of weeks ago:

Sherry Zhang was really excellent. A lot more power in her skating than I remember her having last year. Cleo Park did great as well, but didn't have the same strength/flow IMO. I like Annika Chao's skating too, she just didn't have all her jumps this time and the other two did. Seems like they are all doing well training together and pushing each other.

I'm looking forward to seeing which U.S. junior women end up competing at next month's Kings Cup International in El Segundo, CA and, hopefully, Tayside Trophy in Dundee.

 

[Stephanie]

^^^ I think Cleo has improved a lot this summer so I would be fine with that, too. I agree with what @emilieh posted in the U.S. Club & NQS competitions thread in Kiss & Cry after watching the 3 of them skate at Skate St. Moritz a couple of weeks ago:

I'm looking forward to seeing which U.S. junior women end up competing at next month's Kings Cup International in El Segundo, CA and, hopefully, Tayside Trophy in Dundee.

Speaking of which (and apologies for the OT): does anyone have any idea when we’ll see the entries for King’s Cup? At this rate it seems like it’ll just be a day or two before like a normal NQS.

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Can we fan-wank for Isabeau & Lucas and Lindsay & Jacob? We've already got the cuteness that is Starr & Danil. We need more, lol.

ANL and Nikita Volodin

 

[Frau Muller]

On the ISU entries page, she has never had an "S" next to her name - hence why she is the "Placeholder". The USFS Int'l Assignments page still lists only Lin-Gracey and TBD.

That’s USFS… but both Gracey & Chao are numbered entries on the event list!

Whoever doesn’t like: To you from San Juan, Puerto Rico!

 

[tony]

That’s USFS… but both Gracey & Chao are numbered entries on the event list!

Whoever doesn’t like: To you from San Juan, Puerto Rico!

Someone has to be named in the ISU entries, and can be replaced by any of the substitutes listed. If the USFS is only listing one skater as confirmed, the other is considered a placeholder- as has been explained.

 

[Stephanie]

I'm looking forward to seeing which U.S. junior women end up competing at next month's Kings Cup International in El Segundo, CA and, hopefully, Tayside Trophy in Dundee.

Same here. I’m really hoping Teryn Kim gets one of the spots (probably at Kings Cup)