2024 US Nats Pairs FS - Chaos in Columbus

[Karen-W]

Honestly... ChanHowe could have gone out there with base level lifts and won this thing tonight.

 

[Wyliefan]

After all, tomorrow is another day...

Post of the night!

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Lmao. If ChanHowe are healthy... 2 Italians, 2 Canadians, MiuKih and maybe 1 German team beat them. They'll probably be good for 7th at the worst, maybe higher. But we certainly won't have another team in the Top 10 with the 2 Germans, the Georgians, Hungarians, PengWang and GoluGM there as well. We're definitely dropping a pairs spot for Boston. And I'll be delighted when those two teams representing thr US are the two SCoB teams of ChanHowe and EfiMit.

You don’t need two teams in the top 10 to keep 2 spots. If one team makes the top 10, the other doesn’t even need to make the LP.

 

[Frau Muller]

I am rather in a daze. what did we just watch?

Was this the event that my mom & I used to watch live in the late 1970s/early 1980s, won by people like Tai & Randy and The Carrutherses? Jill Watson & her two partners? Wachsman/Waggoner?

Can Rod Ludington’s spirit return? John Nicks, come out of retirement! He’s a strong 94!

 

[BaileyCatts]

Okay, so we just have the men's final to watch and we all know who is going to win that title. But, I really DO want to see Jason's (possibly) last US Nats performance and my son (from Ontario ... I'm in Nova Scotia) is very likely to make his weekly call to us during that time period. Would I be a TERRIBLE parent if I just turned my phone off so he'd leave a voicemail and then I'd call him back in an hour? Oh ... my consience ....

Nope. Turn dat phone off girl!!!!!

 

[Karen-W]

You don’t need two teams in the top 10 to keep 2 spots. If one team makes the top 10, the other doesn’t even need to make the LP.

I know. I was refuting the notion that ChanHowe will be lucky to finish 9th. They're better than HocKun and the 3rd Canadian team by a long shot, so I think they'll be no lower than 7th, possibly higher.

 

[haribobo]

Peng/Wang are my current prediction to win Worlds. But lets see how 4cc goes...

 

[peibeck]

Do they have better programs?

I've just seen short clips. I have no clue what their programs are. Presuming they are sticking with the same choreographer, I'd guess no?

 

[Sally1214]

Nope. Turn dat phone off girl!!!!!

Thank you, Every little bit of support helps.

 

[Spikefan]

Efimova is over smiling, love it.

 

[Frau Muller]

Lmao. If ChanHowe are healthy... 2 Italians, 2 Canadians, MiuKih and maybe 1 German team beat them. They'll probably be good for 7th at the worst, maybe higher. But we certainly won't have another team in the Top 10 with the 2 Germans, the Georgians, Hungarians, PengWang and GoluGM there as well. We're definitely dropping a pairs spot for Boston. And I'll be delighted when those two teams representing thr US are the two SCoB teams of ChanHowe and EfiMit.

And China. We’ll be hoping for top 15.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

I know. I was refuting the notion that ChanHowe will be lucky to finish 9th. They're better than HocKun and the 3rd Canadian team by a long shot, so I think they'll be no lower than 7th, possibly higher.

You said “we’re definitely dropping a pairs spot for Boston.”

ETA: issue solved below. I repressed that the US has to send THREE pairs to worlds.

 

[Sarah]

And China. We’ll be hoping for top 15.

Its pairs. Anything could happen… unfortunately.

 

[Sarah]

You said “we’re definitely dropping a pairs spot for Boston.”

The us has 3 spots now, right?

 

[Jammers]

I mean, it's Nationals. That happens more often than it doesn't. And this is the only discipline that I have real issues with. K/O should have been below P/F.

I was OK with ChoBates winning overall, I just think they should have been 3rd in the FD.

And honestly, pairs wasn't as terrible as I thought it would be. We've watched some of these pairs where they were waaaay more wobbly. This event was messy, but it wasn't scary.

I disagree in the past decade most US champions skated well when they won and the quality was way better the what we've seen this week. This week we've seen just horrible performances from across the board that we haven't seen from US Nationals champions and former champions in a long time.

 

[SamChez]

Never post, butt… Pairs is too broken to fix. Too creepy. Too disgusting with DSap on my TV. Respect strong women, don’t take advantage of them. Pairs should end.

Quoting myself…US Pairs is disgusting and must end

 

[Theatregirl1122]

The us has 3 spots now, right?

Dear GOD. THEY DO????

I completely forgot Knierim and Frazier didn’t retire until after last year.

 

[Sarah]

Dear GOD. THEY DO????

I completely forgot Knierim and Frazier didn’t retire until after last year.

It feels like so long ago…

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Honestly, the fact that the US has to pick three pairs from this group to send to worlds is a complete disaster. Can we give a spot back for this year? Give one to Italy?

 

[Spikefan]

Honestly, the fact that the US has to pick three pairs from this group to send to worlds is a complete disaster. Can we give us a spot back for this year? Give one to Italy?

It would be great if we could do trades like in the NFL draft.

 

[Karen-W]

Free Skate & Final Results - https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2024/33688/SEGM015.html

1	10	Ellie Kam, Thunderbirds FSC Danny OShea, SC of New York	2	64.57	2	123.19	187.76
2	7	Alisa Efimova, SC of Boston Misha Mitrofanov, SC of Boston	5	60.48	1	126.43	186.91
3	8	Valentina Plazas, Panthers FSC Maximiliano Fernandez, SC of New York	4	63.18	4	117.85	181.03
4	6	Chelsea Liu, SC of New York Balazs Nagy, SC of New York	6	60.13	3	118.70	178.83
5	9	Katie McBeath, Winterhurst FSC Daniil Parkman, SC of New York	3	64.21	5	108.60	172.81
6	5	Isabelle Martins, Chicago FSC Ryan Bedard, Northern Ice SC	7	58.18	6	107.75	165.93
7	4	Nica Digerness, Broadmoor SC Mark Sadusky, St. Moritz ISC	8	55.72	7	101.40	157.12
8	3	Ellie Korytek, SC of New York Timmy Chapman, SC of New York	9	55.57	8	93.26	148.83
9	2	Maria Mokhova, Greater Grand Rapids FSC Ivan Mokhov, Greater Grand Rapids FSC	10	51.51	10	88.31	139.82
10	1	Linzy Fitzpatrick, SC of New York Keyton Bearinger, SC of New York	11	43.26	9	89.41	132.67
WD		Emily Chan, SC of Boston Spencer Howe, SC of Boston	1	65.86
WD		Megan Wessenberg, SC of Boston Edoardo Caputo, Individual Member

 

[Theatregirl1122]

It would be great if we could do trades like in the NFL draft.

I’m willing to do a deal to get one more spot in dance. Heck I’ll give up two pair spots for one in men’s and one in dance.

 

[skatfan]

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[Matryeshka]

Honestly, I'll give up all our spots in pairs on the understanding we get one next year. Let Howe heal and not rush things.

 

[skatfan]

@Theatregirl1122 - love your idea!

 

[kalamalka]

Okay, so we just have the men's final to watch and we all know who is going to win that title. But, I really DO want to see Jason's (possibly) last US Nats performance and my son (from Ontario ... I'm in Nova Scotia) is very likely to make his weekly call to us during that time period. Would I be a TERRIBLE parent if I just turned my phone off so he'd leave a voicemail and then I'd call him back in an hour? Oh ... my consience ....

Just tell your son in advance that you're really looking forward to talking to him, but NOT while the event is on (or turn your phone off). He should know by now that live skating matters.

 

[Frau Muller]

The us has 3 spots now, right?

Incredibly.

 

[skatfan]

Was feeling down about our pairs. The thing is, as many have noted, the judges just sent completely the wrong signal. Sending a pair out without a decent triple throw as our national champions? We will get what we deserve.

Here’s to hoping that the SoCal pairs keep improving, that Delilah goes back under a rock after the safe sport report comes out, and Chan and Howe can come back fully!

 

[MacMadame]

Do they have better programs?

Do they need them? (To score well.)

 

[Private Citizen]

Somewhere Scott and Dulebohn are smiling that their 2003 title is no longer the worst in history .

We all knew that this was going to be bad, but my god . Leave the title or maybe the entire podium vacant.

I also think it's time for some "systemic failure" deductions in pairs, e.g., -5.00 deduction for not completing either throw jump cleanly and an additional -5.00 for not completing either side-by-side jumping pass cleanly. Honestly it would be better to see doubles than all of these mistakes.