JGP #5 Budapest - Ice Dance RD & FD

[her grace]

Pedersen/Chen win PCS and beat Brits in that mark by 3 points. Yeah, no.

 

[Karen-W]

Ehhhh... Linz was under-scored IMO.

100%

The thing that is bothering me about the under-scoring at Linz is that it is very likely going to keep the Peals out of the JGPF - they're probably going to wind up with a silver & bronze like Fradji/Forneaux but FraForn will win the tiebreak because their total combined score is higher due to not being assigned to the outlier event that Linz was, IMO.

 

[Belsornia]

Wheee, congrats to Pidgaina/Koval.

And I think that’s the first time a British skater/team have won a segment on the JGP. Too bad they couldn’t get a medal, but Mouaden/Bigot also a very exciting young team and deserving here.

I hope BIS will send S/OP to a junior B or two. They have been a bit messy every time out this season and could do with some more competitive mileage; it would be a shame if between now and junior worlds they only have the British with a largely absent domestic field.

 

[airgelaal]

Pedersen/Chen win PCS and beat Brits in that mark by 3 points. Yeah, no.

I'm already scared for their scores in the final

 

[PRlady]

Pedersen/Chen win PCS and beat Brits in that mark by 3 points. Yeah, no.

Their PCS should be lower than the baby Brits, baby French and Ukrainians. And it is a lackluster FD that’s not going to help them at home either.

 

[airgelaal]

Honestly, as much as I like Pedersen/Chen in the RD, this POTO FD does nothing for me... And I have to wonder if it does anything for Yahli either since she hasn't skated it clean at either JGP.

I don't think it's the program. They are first after the RD with a good lead. They MUST win. That's where the mistakes come from.

 

[Sylvia]

SLAVA UKRAINI !!! (will end in timestamped link to medal ceremony later): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS0Wi_fSRiA

 

[Marta24]

And Ukraine has only one Junior Worlds spot

 

[Sylvia]

FD protocols: http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...OR----FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

Pl.	Name	Nation	TSS =	TES +		PCS +	CO	PR	SK	Ded. -	StN.
1​	Ashlie SLATTER / Atl ONGAY-PEREZ	GBR	87.94​	48.16​		39.78​	6.75​	6.75​	6.39​	0.00​	#12​
2​	Iryna PIDGAINA / Artem KOVAL	UKR	87.65​	45.95​		42.70​	7.21​	7.18​	6.96​	1.00​	#15​
3​	Dania MOUADEN / Theo BIGOT	FRA	86.55​	46.85​		39.70​	6.64​	6.75​	6.46​	0.00​	#13​
4​	Mariia ALIEVA / Yehor BARSHAK	GEO	84.02​	47.02​		37.00​	6.25​	6.18​	6.07​	0.00​	#8​
5​	Dana SABATINI-SPECIALE / Nicholas BUELOW	CAN	81.68​	44.12​		37.56​	6.39​	6.25​	6.14​	0.00​	#11​
6​	Yahli PEDERSEN / Jeffrey CHEN	USA	81.38​	39.38​		43.00​	7.39​	7.04​	7.07​	1.00​	#14​
7​	Sofiia BEZNOSIKOVA / Max LELEU	BEL	74.97​	37.83​		37.14​	6.29​	6.14​	6.14​	0.00​	#9​
8​	Alice PIZZORNI / Massimiliano BUCCIARELLI	ITA	74.69​	41.19​		33.50​	5.57​	5.61​	5.57​	0.00​	#6​
9​	Estelle BOUILLET / Martin CHARDAIN	FRA	74.27​	41.35​		33.92​	5.71​	5.54​	5.71​	1.00​	#7​
10​	Mia Lee MAYER / Davide CALDERARI	GER	73.65​	41.01​		32.64​	5.61​	5.57​	5.14​	0.00​	#5​
11​	Olivia ILIN / Dylan CAIN	USA	72.66​	39.22​		35.44​	6.11​	5.75​	5.86​	2.00​	#10​
12​	Caroline KRAVETS / Jacob STARK	CAN	70.74​	39.38​		31.36​	5.36​	5.00​	5.32​	0.00​	#2​
13​	Lauren Audrey BATKOVA / Jacob YANG	CZE	67.87​	38.01​		30.86​	5.29​	5.18​	4.96​	1.00​	#4​
14​	Ksenia SIPUNOVA / Miron KORJAGIN	EST	43.73​	20.71​		23.02​	4.04​	3.68​	3.79​	0.00​	#3​
15​	Felicity CHASE / Mikhail AJAM	RSA	38.70​	22.12​		17.58​	3.07​	2.86​	2.86​	1.00​	#1​

Junior Ice Dance

Result

FPl. Name Nation Points RD FD GOLD Iryna PIDGAINA / Artem KOVAL UKR 149.42 2 2 SILVER Yahli PEDERSEN / Jeffrey CHEN USA 146.28 1 6 BRONZE Dania MOUADEN / Theo BIGOT FRA 146.03 3 3 4 Ashlie SLATTER / Atl ONGAY-PEREZ GBR 144.69 5 1 5 Dana SABATINI-SPECIALE / Nicholas BUELOW CAN 139.51 4 5 6 Mariia ALIEVA / Yehor BARSHAK GEO 139.21 6 4 7 Sofiia BEZNOSIKOVA / Max LELEU BEL 127.49 8 7 8 Estelle BOUILLET / Martin CHARDAIN FRA 126.46 9 9 9 Olivia ILIN / Dylan CAIN USA 126.40 7 11 10 Alice PIZZORNI / Massimiliano BUCCIARELLI ITA 125.06 10 8 11 Mia Lee MAYER / Davide CALDERARI GER 121.16 11 10 12 Caroline KRAVETS / Jacob STARK CAN 116.55 13 12 13 Lauren Audrey BATKOVA / Jacob YANG CZE 114.28 12 13 14 Ksenia SIPUNOVA / Miron KORJAGIN EST 78.27 14 14 15 Felicity CHASE / Mikhail AJAM RSA 65.43 15 15

 

[airgelaal]

Both of them are from my native Odesa!

 

[Amy L]

Happy early birthday to Iryna

The bébés are super cute and happy

Jeffrey looked a little at the beginning but now everyone is all happy smiles with their wreaths and flags for the photos.

 

[Karen-W]

I don't think it's the program. They are first after the RD with a good lead. They MUST win. That's where the mistakes come from.

I think the program is part of the problem. I haven't been impressed with it since I saw it at LPIDI. It's lackluster and vanilla as far as programs go. It feels like this season's "let's pull a program outta our a$$es at the last minute" the same way GreenP's Rhapsody in Magenta did last year from MIDA.

 

[airgelaal]

The next years should be very interesting. So many babies teams

 

[Wyliefan]

I like this girl who's all "Oh well, I'll carry the medal tray if I HAVE to."

 

[Karen-W]

Jeffrey looked a little at the beginning but now everyone is all happy smiles with their wreaths and flags for the photos.

And well he should be since they just booked their ticket to the JGPF with the silver here.

Mathematically it isn't 100% yet - Zehnder/Sieber could knock them out with a win next week, but I think the only way Grimm/Savitskiy lose next week is if one of them gets sick like she did at Jr Worlds.

But, right now, they're sitting in 2nd in the standings and looking pretty good for the trip to Beijing.

 

[PRlady]

And well he should be since they just booked their ticket to the JGPF with the silver here.

Mathematically it isn't 100% yet - Zehnder/Sieber could knock them out with a win next week, but I think the only way Grimm/Savitskiy lose next week is if one of them gets sick like she did at Jr Worlds.

But, right now, they're sitting in 2nd in the standings and looking pretty good for the trip to Beijing.

Is there a link somewhere to standings?

 

[Wyliefan]

Is there a link somewhere to standings?

https://results.isu.org/events/jgp2023/jgpsdance.htm

 

[Gris]

Is there a link somewhere to standings?

https://results.isu.org/events/jgp2023/jgpsdance.htm

ETA: Ha, @Wyliefan got there before I did.

 

[Wyliefan]

Jinx!

 

[PRlady]

Looks to me like the other Ukrainians, Germans and “Israelis” will get the last three spots but I’m lousy at reading these kinds of graphs.

 

[Karen-W]

Looks to me like the other Ukrainians, Germans and “Israelis” will get the last three spots but I’m lousy at reading these kinds of graphs.

Yes. I posted my analysis over in the JGP thread in GSD. It's not 100%, but those are the teams I'd bet on.

 

[tony]

Looks to me like the other Ukrainians, Germans and “Israelis” will get the last three spots but I’m lousy at reading these kinds of graphs.

Yes, most likely scenario.

 

[Holy Headband]

Both of them are from my native Odesa!

I was thinking about Odessa's current state (due to being bombed by Russia) just yesterday because I was listening to old recordings of Sviatoslav Richter (one of the greatest pianists of all time), who first learned to play as a child there. So many amazing musicians come from there and it's such a beautiful place. I really hope this great city can flourish again in peace soon and the damage to the historic parts isn't unfixable.

Anyway, very impressed by the baby French team's quick rise and by the judges' mental gymnastics.

 

[Nmsis]

Anyway, very impressed by the baby French team's quick rise

And it's only the begining of the season...

 

[Yyzskater]

Yeah, I don't generally care for what used to be called gorilla/flea pairings, but somehow this team seems to make it work. Some of their holds were quite clever.

It will be interesting because he's only 16 and is probably still growing and she is under 5' and has probably stopped growing...and she ages out well before he does.

 

[Sylvia]

I was thinking about Odessa's current state (due to being bombed by Russia) just yesterday because I was listening to old recordings of Sviatoslav Richter (one of the greatest pianists of all time), who first learned to play as a child there.

Thank you - I didn't know that about Richter.

Ice Dance victory ceremony starts here in the FD replay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS0Wi_fSRiA&t=9285s

Free Dance playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuB703eaMDlKkeS7RxYlrY2K_emb8FaEw

Rhythm Dance playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuB703eaMDlLHkLX8IinazO9oM4oyH3cO

 

[miffy]

I’m excited for the baby Brits. They’ve improved their scores considerably in the last year, and they’ve still got several years left in Junior thanks to the new rules, so they have loads of time. Their technique is being rewarded and I’m sure their PCS will improve. Who knows how far they could go

 

[Lizziebeth]

I’m excited for the baby Brits. They’ve improved their scores considerably in the last year, and they’ve still got several years left in Junior thanks to the new rules, so they have loads of time. Their technique is being rewarded and I’m sure their PCS will improve. Who knows how far they could go

I am a fan of little Brits too!

 

[kwanfan1818]

Aside from the top teams — and I’m not feeling the dance yet from Pedersen/Chen — I really like the Italians. He needs a twizzles coach, because concentrating on them is the only time he breaks out of an impressively consistent and strong performance quality.